A plea to the community from a Centurion main | Forums

[CandleInTheDark]

biased
adjective

-- unfairly prejudiced for or against someone or something.


I would like to know where in this suggesting nerfs for your own main before talking about anything else fits.

[Knight_Raime]

I am not going to discuss Centurion in current meta since it is bound to be gone soon(?). I will just point out the problems with in PTR changes;

1. Parry Punish: They need to significantly reduce stamina damage from that knee, also make it so that he doesn't get a free kick on top of it. Otherwise his parry play will outclass every other
class. (WL also needs that addressed)

2. Stamina Pool: His stamina pool is utter nonsense, has to be brought down to same level as everyone else. No other hero can maintain their successful offensive pressure as much as Centurion can maintain his failed one (with more stamina cost due to fail). With changes coming to OOS, he can not retain his stamina pool/consumption as is.

3. Stamina drain on normal attacks: This one has to go away completely. Stamina management should be on the player managing their own stamina with their own attacks, not other way around.

4. Chip Pressure due to Heavy>Soft GB: I don't know if anyone encountered that, but a Centurion who mixups his heavies with soft GB was real deadly in PTR. Simply put you have to sit there and take the chip as long as he keeps up the pressure, because you cant risk dodge attempts due to soft GB, neither parry attempts for both instant GB threat (0-100ms was enough for soft GB succeeding vs parry attempt), as well as his heavy timing being adjustable you cant do it with motor reflexes the way you do vs other heroes.. He also doesn't care about his own stamina pool and can easily chip away a large chunk almost risk free. Heavy>soft GB needs to cost a lot more stamina to be less spammable.

For 4v4, they need to make it so that his 6 second stunlock (pin>jab>knockdown) is broken free (at any stage) if someone else attacks the target and problem will be mostly solved.

1) I already said that the stamina damage on it should be brought back in my suggested nerfs.

2) That's kind of not really..raider has more stamina than everyone else. And gladiator is going to as well. I could see maybe bringing it down some. but moving it to the same level is no. Because he is supposed to be comboing. he needs the extra stamina. If you want to make his pool smaller you gotta make his moves cost less stamina.

3) stamina drain on normal attacks..what?

4) I'd be more than happy to increase the cost of his soft feint game if the rest of his kit gets the buffs i suggested.

I will not comment on 4v4 changes.

[Knight_Raime]

I'd like to know where someone gets off calling someone's biased when they have shown very little to indicate this through their posts, then when they take offense you tell them to calm down!? Dude you may not be trying, but you're trolling none the less. How about you listen to a little of Raime's posts a little and maybe you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the Centurion as OP and out of your league.
And Raime don't bait into **** like this. I'm really sick of cheap **** half assed teenagers and kids sitting on these forums and calling everyone who doesn't agree with them a biased ubifanboy or claiming they have no skill because they play "X" character. I know the label put on Centurion players well, I'm a PK and we get as much, if not more because assassin classes. You just do you and do t bother with these asshats.

Yeah i'm sick of it too. Now you know why I don't want to play centurion anymore.
I'm afraid to even like one of the next heros coming. as either of them will surely be called OP.
Like. I legit sometimes don't want to post here. I enjoy some of the discussions I have here. But i'm starting to wonder if it's worth considering how many people write me off over trivial nonsense.

biased
adjective

-- unfairly prejudiced for or against someone or something.


I would like to know where in this suggesting nerfs for your own main before talking about anything else fits.

It doesn't fit. the guy like many other people has a personal thing against centurion. and according to those people that's a sin of mine. and thus nothing I say is valid.

[CandleInTheDark]

It doesn't fit. the guy like many other people has a personal thing against centurion. and according to those people that's a sin of mine. and thus nothing I say is valid.

Yeah peacekeepers get this quite often as well, apparently we all, every single one of us, do nothing but spam lights and Zones. Honestly I learned to firstly figure that if people are claiming op, they are looking for excuses as to why they lost since I know I do not do that and I made posts like yours here since I figured any constructive views were useful to the devs.

[Knight_Raime]

Yeah peacekeepers get this quite often as well, apparently we all, every single oe of us, do nothing but spam lights and Zones. Honestly I learned to firstly figure that if peopleare claiming op, they are looking for excuses as to why they lost since I know I do not do that and I made posts like yours here since I figured any constructive views were useful to the devs.

yeah I saw your suggestions on pk. sad that they got covered up by jerks.

[Alustar.exe]

A lot of the changes Candle, Gray and a few others had for PK would have solved everything and no one heard them cause everyone was crying that PKs needed to literally be nerfed into non existence. So we feel your pain Raime. Welcome to the club where they hate us cause they ain't us!

[CandleInTheDark]

A lot of the changes Candle, Gray and a few others had for PK would have solved everything and no one heard them cause everyone was crying that PKs needed to literally be nerfed into non existence. So we feel your pain Raime. Welcome to the club where they hate us cause they ain't us!

Yeah that is the thing, in terms of the PK you couldn't just nerf what the problem to begin with was now because they have nerfed very nearly everything else, she needs a rework if anything is going to change drastically now. In terms of the centurion, he is in a decent place 1v1 and that is why it is such a fine balancing act because the devs rightly don't want to stiff his mains when it comes to things like duel.

[BudgetParrot118]

I think his design is fine. It just needs polishing. I disagree with him being anything close to spammy. then again I play 1v1. I can't speak on 4v4. Though 4v4 is and imo always will be a spam fest of moves. wether its stam drain attacks or safe moves.

I clearly said in the original thread post he didn't come across biased or she don't know the gender don't really care.

I have repeat yet again this remark is why I gave my,opinion. Attempting to clarify.

The One V one remark is why I said I think they're biased. The way you all are acting over the fact of me saying this person is biased also refers to your own bias.

I did not personally insult someone I didn't say anything really degrading. You all are starting to act like high school kids with your little groups. All the while ironically accusing me I think of being a teenager.

In my last post I gave a detailed argument about how ultimately all these arguments are kind of pointless to some degree and kind of laughable. At the end of all of it all I want is a playable game.

Again you dismissed the evidence. You dismiss the facts.

Fixing the stuff that was mentioned in the post on centurion I posted. Is a lot more than (polishing)

[BudgetParrot118]

Here's a little gift. I mean no offense by this but for you to say that I literally just lost all your credit with me I can't help but feel at this point you're just biased.

Clearly in my post I quoted what was the remark I had an issue with.

1v1 he is an issue. That's my opinion. The reason I said they lost all merit with me was because I read the thread and I didn't think so at first.

I post facts and make valid factual issues. Then said posters little sunshine pals focus on one remark I said all the while referencing the main post that I said I don't have too much of an issue with.

I still don't agree with everything of the main thread post. Either way, I didn't call that remark bias now did I?

The one I did call bias I clearly quoted.

[BudgetParrot118]

That's the thing as well.. Never had too much issue over peace keeper.

When I first started playing I got matched against someone whose main is pk...

I lost and lost and lost..for hours... But that was due to my skill. Not OP....

I don't care if I win or lose as long as I'm having fun don't get me wrong losing consecutively kind of sucks but either way I'm not one of those people that's a winning *****.

I just want tasteful realistic combat. Like with EVERY OTHER character.

In my region as of late you can't have a round without centurion, or lawbringer.

That's awkward and extremely coincidental.