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I have spent the evening dueling... and I'm saying this with all certainty... if you don't nerf the living hell out of the centurion then this game is still going to be the JOKE of the gaming community. I have never seen so much unblockable spamming to drain my stamina in all my life. its absolutely abhorant. Your lack of discipline in character creation and in balancing your game is directly on par with how long its taken you to listen to your player base to even broach the idea of servers.
NERF THIS BROKEN, UNBALANCED, OUT OF PLACE HERO.
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You lost alot of DUELS to Centurions? Then you probably have problems with Wardens, Lawbringers and Warlords, too? Cause they do the same thing...
Centurion is garbage in Duels. He really is, not like the others I have mentioned. His moves are totally telegraphed.
- Kick: much slower than Headbutt - Dodge and get a guaranteed GB
- Heavy into charged Heavy - block the first one, wait for him to release the second (move backwards while he charges), parry it when the indicator flashes
- Do not panic when he pins you with the charged Heavy, after that there is a 90% probability that he will GB you - CGB
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You're full of it
His stun moves are fast and that's a problem his punches are mixed in with his combos his combos have wide Windows of time we're pretty much it's just a bunch of separate moves and you can hit them almost at any time you desire the forgiveness his chains have as far as timing is ridiculous.
Again that whole telegraph's thing you're saying that's all irrelevant. I've been playing for months man I I can get past maybe three moves but the problem is those stun moves eventually get up with me if you fight against them. Because he either grabs you punches you guard breaks you or kicks you and after that comes a long chain which again timing window on this chain is f****** stupid. And the other f*****-up thing when Centurion is out of stamina he still hits as fast as Berserkers heavy. That's just f***** up
They keep you stunned the whole round I don't know who you're playing against their what your personal experiences but everybody that I've played against it's all stun bass even with lawbringer it's all stun attacks like I said when he goes in to die for that first stab even if I Perry it or let's say I block it or I Dodge which dodging does no f****** good either on one of his moves he literally will keep walking towards you to f****** stab you so if you don't Dodge really really really far away then he still gets you with the variety of his moveset which is what this person saying he's overpowered and yes he is there's no way around it nobody has ******* moves in their combos to wear the third movie and even if they miss they can walk towards you with it and hit you that's not being rewarded for dodging
I can't believe you even said that but just wow.
Stun, knock down, grab and carry abuse is a problem.
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And before anybody says that I'm not a Nerf or buff type guy I really am not I don't get into those conversations because a lot of them honestly I think they just want the game to be super easy to where they have the advantage.
I just want things to be fair honestly or strategic better yet stun moves and punches and things of like that should cost the player there shouldn't be moves that if they miss you they can chase you down with that same hit like the stab of centurion that's f***** up his combos are just filled with all this utterly overpowered b*******.
And then lawbringer in his f****** shove and grab all these moves do when they're abused as make it to where the games not playable someone gets one move in and they don't stop until you're dead and that's not fun for anybody it may be fun for some **** that's picking up the game temporarily and doesn't know what he's doing but it's bad
Because when you win that easy you lose interest in the game as a whole and ultimately ends up running people off as well. Both the person that's getting f***** over and the person f****** somebody over you only get so much Amusement out of being an a****** before you ready to jump onto another game and be an a****** they don't really have a commitment to the game.
I play warlord I occasionally use a headbutt as a strategic way but I don't abuse it. And honestly it be fine with me if that got removed out of the game completely I'm fine with it or they could keep it in there and just make it cost stamina on my part because in a real sword fight it's still a high-risk high-reward situation to throw punches kicks and headbutts they could easily swing at your f****** head and Lop it off when you do that if they dodged same for the punch if someone Dodges the punch and the punch shouldn't have a wider span it should have a narrow span of attack and they were to swing at you while you're in the animation of throwing it you should be punished for.
And another issue while they're winding up their punches and stuff they should be able to light attack and ripstop it but a lot of times I find out these moves they blow me back
Then again if use Tastefully like I use Berserker Zone attack usually I'll go two rounds using other tactics in my combos and then on the last match one of my favorite things to do is at the end of my chain if they're close to death then to get that last bit of Health down I usually do a spin attack and they don't expect it because I never use it
The punch should be used in this manner it should cost a lot but the whole purpose of it is surprise and its benefit is stamina damage which should be fine but it shouldn't f****** be something you can just do over and over and over in various forms of kicking punch and grabs and throws.
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Im a rep 10 cent and he is rubbish in 1v1 at higher level plays, the only way I can win a duel against someone decent is simply by timing my attacks between their attacks, Everyone I play manages to CGB every time and they dodge every punch, kick and parry every unblockabke. even the devs said he is underpowered in 1v1 that why they are struggling to nerf him because if they nerf him in 4v4 then he will be useless in 1v1
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again so many people defending the cent simply because they want to keep the unfair advantage....
if he is so bad in 1v1 then why is he a pick in tournaments?
shinobi got the nerf and was rendered useless too so why give cent the special treatment? oh jeah thats right favouritism....
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Lol what? Because he was used in a tournament he's not bad at 1v1?Originally Posted by SenBotsu893 Go to original post
alright.
i'll just give an equally insane claim to match yours. I saw nobushi in a tournament once. So she's actually really good. and has no issues what so ever.
Shinobi is far from useless.
Cent isn't getting special treatment. they nerfed his kicks stam damage pretty much right away.
they took away the guaranteed heavy after a landed kick.
They are making it so he can't pin with other cents anymore in quick succession.
They have made it so his pin doesn't ignore shugs armor.
They are clearly not giving cent special treatment..
Cent along with every other hero is going to receive changes due to the PTR changes we just tested.
maybe stop acting like a child because you're not getting exactly what you want and have some patience.
EDIT: Oh I forgot. they also removed his unlimited wall splat combo pretty much entirely. Only way that's happening now is if he's literally hugging you in a corner. anywhere else and it doesn't happen.
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I'd like to piggy back on this and say, i run skirmish almost exclusively, at first the Centurion was a nightmare. After about three weeks of rigorous practice I've found I can handle two of them and a third hero. It's not easy, but it is possible, even in 4v4.Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
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i was using the example of the tournament to debunk those people claiming he is low tier in 1v1. because thats simply not true.Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
and funny how you mention only things that where not supposed to be in the game... those are not nerfs those are bug fixes.
the cent version in the first week was never intended to go live but somehow ended up beeing released on consoles.
seriously do you think an invinte wall combo is supposed to be in the game?
ignoring shugs armor was also removed from other attacks from other characters. e.g: shinobi tackle, raider charge, demon embrace,
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