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    Again about LawBringer


    Its possible to avoid the LawBringer moves? YES
    Its possible to deafeat a LawBringer? YES
    The hero is brooken? I dont think so.

    But take a look on this video:
    https://youtu.be/vHD9L4TquAY?t=21s

    Did u see? Even if it's possible to defeat, that don't mean the LB is on the same level of all other characters.

    Today, to defeat an average LawBringer you need to be a skilled player.
    To deafeat a skilled LawBringer you need to be awesome or count with luck.

    Top Lights are so damm fast.
    Everytime he hits top you get stuned.
    He have a huge amount of HP (like a Heavy hero)
    He have unblockables.
    Shove Alternate made any block looks like a parry. I mean he can punish you everytime he blocks, after the Shove he can hit you or gb you.
    It's a mixup, I know. It can be avoided, I know. But he can use this everytime and it's so annoying.
    Even if you say its entirely reactable, you need to agree that force a player to react to this 10 times in a fight is too much.

    ImpalingCharge is totally avoidable, and its eats a big amount of stamina from LB (ty god) but you need to agree that move have a magic connect window.
    When the LB run against you, you only can block left side. All lights, heavies and other moves wont work, I cant even see the frames where he lift the poleaxe and stabs me.

    I play For Honor since march but I see myself as just an ordinary player, very average.
    But I feel that defeat a LB in a duel is a lot more hard than defeat other heros.

    He is not simple versatille, he is very good on everything he do.
    He is not broken, but for sure he needs a nerf
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    Originally Posted by one.Autumn.Ieaf Go to original post

    Its possible to avoid the LawBringer moves? YES
    Its possible to deafeat a LawBringer? YES
    The hero is brooken? I dont think so.

    But take a look on this video:
    https://youtu.be/vHD9L4TquAY?t=21s

    Did u see? Even if it's possible to defeat, that don't mean the LB is on the same level of all other characters.

    Today, to defeat an average LawBringer you need to be a skilled player.
    To deafeat a skilled LawBringer you need to be awesome or count with luck.

    Top Lights are so damm fast.
    Everytime he hits top you get stuned.
    He have a huge amount of HP (like a Heavy hero)
    He have unblockables.
    Shove Alternate made any block looks like a parry. I mean he can punish you everytime he blocks, after the Shove he can hit you or gb you.
    It's a mixup, I know. It can be avoided, I know. But he can use this everytime and it's so annoying.
    Even if you say its entirely reactable, you need to agree that force a player to react to this 10 times in a fight is too much.

    ImpalingCharge is totally avoidable, and its eats a big amount of stamina from LB (ty god) but you need to agree that move have a magic connect window.
    When the LB run against you, you only can block left side. All lights, heavies and other moves wont work, I cant even see the frames where he lift the poleaxe and stabs me.

    I play For Honor since march but I see myself as just an ordinary player, very average.
    But I feel that defeat a LB in a duel is a lot more hard than defeat other heros.

    He is not simple versatille, he is very good on everything he do.
    He is not broken, but for sure he needs a nerf

    That's just an opinion about needing to be a skilled player to beat a average lawbringer.

    The video linked isn't even the same game

    His top lights are 500ms. All but 3 heroes have a 500ms attack and it's only from the top so that's where you should keep your guard.

    Only his top heavy stuns you

    He's also slow like a heavy so makes sense that he would have the health of one, he is a hybrid of a heavy afterall

    How does it look like a parry? He's glowing orange. His block shove mixup is what makes the character unique and can be defended against, what exactly do you want? To take it away completely even though you've already admitted you can react to it?

    If it's totally avoidable then why exactly does it need to be nerfed? You just explained how easy it is to stop, just block left and now he has 20% of his stam and you have frame advantage.

    He's a solid character don't get me wrong but he's in no way broken. There are other characters that are in a much better position and everything he has is legit as explained above. Honest character is honest.
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    I know he isnt broken, i said that twice...
    I just said, that IMO, he is stronger than the others.

    Of course the video isnt of the same game lol, I just wanted to point that even if you can avoid it still can be hard to do.

    When I said the Shove Alternate act like a parry, let me be more clear.
    Other heros can only punish an attack by parry or interrupt it, but LB can punish you just for block you.
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    Originally Posted by one.Autumn.Ieaf Go to original post
    I know he isnt broken, i said that twice...
    I just said, that IMO, he is stronger than the others.

    Of course the video isnt of the same game lol, I just wanted to point that even if you can avoid it still can be hard to do.

    When I said the Shove Alternate act like a parry, let me be more clear.
    Other heros can only punish an attack by parry or interrupt it, but LB can punish you just for block you.
    He is stronger than some, on par with some, and worse than some. He's in a good position but there are far better characters.
    Yes he can punish you on block but that's what makes him unique, he's a counter attacker after all and really his only strength. Everything else he has is just okay, nothing special that separates him from the rest of the cast or specializes in.
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    As Antonio said, it's what makes the LB unique. Each hero has their own specialisation, and their downfalls, LB included. Nerfing his attack speed, damage or health would be too far.
    IMO Lawbringer is strong, but he's also in a good place, and I disagree that you need to be a skilled player to beat an average Lawbringer. It all depends on the person who you are fighting, how long they've spent with the class. Yes it would be very hard to take down a skilled Lawbringer, but the same can be said of the other heros.
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    I Dont think his shove as a means to stop an attack is unique to him. i have seen plenty of headbutts do the same thing. There are quite a few characters that have a similar ability. IMO LB is the most balanced and in the best place he's been since the release. Im talking in ability to use him and in ability to kill him.
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