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"ofthestone" your posts get stupider and sensles by the day. no one wanted to take conq superior block away completely, only in OOS.
you are the stupid one to ask the devs and who ever you worship these days that "please devs, **** up every character wit this defensive meta patch, but leave my conq OP even in the OPS no matter the changes". you either don't know what your saying, either you're a kids and if so we shouldn't bother with you, either you really need to go see a psychiatrist...
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I said it many times befor, months ago
Yes, the OOS Sup Block is a topic that will be worked on.
BUT superior block on just "normal block" is to much, a very good way to change this would be to make Give superior block frames after a guard side switch. (Same amount like on heavy start up)
That means, you change your guard directions, you have a short window of superior block and after this just normal block like ever other Hero, until you switch the guard dircetion again.
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UbiJurassic
thanks for the response, though I still feel he needs more than that to make him feel it, I've got a video down below of something an opponent used on me which is extremely hard to counter, even in the PTS2
OfTheStone
This bloody kid haha, he doesn't reply when he's been given actual advice, lol you haven't read anything
S0Mi_xD
That's not a bad idea at first thought, though this would encourage people to keep rapidly switch stances, do you remember how assassins were in the closed alpha? all they had to do was guard a second before the hit came, and boom free deflect, didn't realise how irritating that was until later on.
but technically, he already has something like this (I call it conqs deflect), and when conqs use it theres literally very little reward you get for even countering this (if you can counter it), you can't feint gb fast enough, to catch him before he goes into sheild bash, feint into a light can work, but only if the conq screws up, if he doesn't well you still get hit and last one is feint into side dash light, but depending on what class you are this can be very easy to counter for even higher damage. or the conq can just stand there. here is a link of me using it https://youtu.be/Hi7lbW8vhQ4
Trying to make this clear, conq shouldn't have his superior block removed completly, just make him work for it, like everyone else that does have one, he already has superior block on start ups and dash, and can feint lights and heavys, this is a nightmare for any class that doesn't have a 50/50 like kensei, berserker, Lawbringer (his shove is reactable and requires stamina) etc
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I am a rep 15 conq so I have played with him for a while. I can rarely get a shield bash to connect because everyone just dodge it right away. So yes it is easy to dodge. "all the crap he can do"? He is one of the most onesided class, he has no flashy combos, does not take much damage per hit so the only thing left is just play "turtle". Removing the supperior block is like taking away raider's UB zone attack or shukogi's uninterubtable stance. But lets say that they tale away his superior block, what should he get instead? He needs to get some seriously good things otherwise he will just be crap.Originally Posted by Aku... Go to original post
And last of all just because he is irritaiting to play against doesn't mean that he needs to be nerfed. Valkyre are really irritating to play against and I don't think they need a nerf.
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I've already said alot of this, but here, the quick shield bash is a 50/50 dude, maybe you are still new to this, but 50/50 means in this case that you either predict it's coming, and dodge, or you predict wrong, you dodge, and you are open to being GBd, if he does go for a shield bash the only solid punish is a side dash light, if your class has one (but that can be parried for even more damage).
Flashy combos? dude everyone is limited, I've played alot of kensei, the one class no one has a problem with because he has no 50/50s and isn't a rule breaker (what I mean by that is, he doesn't have a trait that makes you have to fight differently, examples are cent with his fast heavy attacks, pk with her fast lights plus quick zone, nobushi with her long reach so parrying and gb is not always gauranteed, berserker with the best feints that are too quick to tank through like normal, shinobi who can play the long range game etc, I can go on, but point is, I have not complained one bit about the kensei needing a buff, do you know why? his character feels right, the one that takes the most skill to use because he has no easy openers, it's where all the characters should be aiming to be at
Warden's moveslist is literally one page, and yet is considered one of the highest tier characters, why? it's because of the way he uses what he's got, the only thing I could say I've had problems with is his vortex and zone, but they've nerfed them well, if you block zone, you get a free gb (used to be that even if you parried it, he was out of range of a gb) and vortex can now only be canceled at the beginning, these were nerfs, but at least he's not broken anymore, he's still hard as hell to beat.
Look dude I'm not that annoyed with you, you just seem a little misinformed, you have a total rep of 19, not bad, its a better spread of levels than this idiot (yes now I can call him idiot becuase of this, this is not the first place he's complained) OfTheStone who's literally only a rep 26 conq, nothing else, don't believe me? look him up he's a pc player
I can see that you main conq, you're not lying about the rep, but you need to realise that superior block for just standing there is just too much, he has superior block on other moves well, did you know he has a deflect? it's not on the moves list, like his ability to feint, and the fact that his heavy shield bash is guaranteed after a charged heavy, just watch the video I posted, it's the conqs deflect which I was trying on PTS2, there is no difference, and he should be feeling the biggest difference, here look https://youtu.be/Hi7lbW8vhQ4
I've seen conq mains who have gotten too used to the comfort of not having to tank heavies and parry at all and it makes them so estranged from other classes because they are not as easy to play because you need to be more offensive, if the game was full of conqs who won't throw out heavies because it's not safe, this would be a boring *** game this is coming from a rep 63 player who's participated in tournaments, trust me, this needs to be considered, maybe it should be different for PS4 due to frame rate, but definitley not pc
