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Amazing argument!!Originally Posted by Flaw3dGenius23 Go to original post
Im not defending anything at all. I never said it was a PERFECT game and 100% authentic and realistic experiense but i do enjoy it.
Is just that it seems nobody understand what the game/franchise has been aiming for since the beginning 2001
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I never did a comparison LOL
Do you guys even read? Is at the beginning of the post
[B]I found this on Brothers In Arms Legacy forums and i think is something that most of the people here need to read, it may not be about the same videogame but the idea and the complains are the same/similar
And yes the complains are the same.
Why do I THINK the game is authentic with facts:
Weapons recreation is perfect, is bullet drop horrible? Maybe, but isn't something new for the Ghost Recon franchise and videogames.
Clothes/armor yes it is authentic, the selection may be small but what we have IS authentic but it can be improved
Tactics? Yes they are.
World :
Does la Santa Muerte, religion exists? Yes and is often prize by Cartels although common people also do this, mainly on latin america but is more common on Mexico and for them the Santa Muerte is not an evil figure.
Bolivia is authentic, on the types of biomes that they have and the fact that they are productors of cocaine is also authentic.
Not tyign to be rude here but your comment @FerroMortem is very ridiculous and stupid, you know this is a videogame right? And that the Ghost's, the Santa Blanca cartel and the Unidad do not exist right?
And your comment about how expensive the weapons are that is IMPOSSIBLE for cartels to use them is very funny, it is a fact if you know about cartels that they do have a lot of money and a lot of expensive weapons in real life as well as exotic animals and super sport cars. They do not need exportation, they have contacts on the US military and so on, so please avoid saying things like that. You can easily do a research about it on the internet.
Let's not forget that this is a videogame with fantasy involved in it, it has always been like that.
Only a few understood the post and the point of it, to not expect realistic things on a videogame.
Videos to showcase how Ghost Recon and the Tom Clancy videogames in general aka Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell, Hawx and EndWar have never been realistic.
Is the game perfect? No, but it is a good videogame to have fun and to explore on and that's the point of a videogame, im not defending Ubisoft and nobody is. I'm just trying to make a point: we shouldn't complain about things that do not matter at all most of the time, because they aren't aiming for realism, the aim is authenticity it can't be 100% authentic because the whole Tom Clancy world is a fantasy, so is impossible to recreate something that has never happen.
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We're still waiting for those "Facts" that you have spoken about... or are they facts because you say so.
Here are my facts... because I say so.
I have played ALL of the Recon games to death and I don't recall having such a horrible bad experience with Bullet Drop with any of the previous GR. In fact, they were very good in my opinion... except for this one. Granted, I only have the Betas to compare but I doubt it was fixed for release or even after all of the great updates the game has had.
Weapons Ergos and mechanics? Well, it is ok (depending on how low your bar is at) but I have seen better even on older GR games.
Nothing of how the AI behaves is authentic nor real... it does show the potential is there but as always, minimalist effort for maximum profit wins all the time. Other lesser games have done a much better job with enemy gameplay than what we have here. It shows UBI cared more for eyecandy than actual gameplay.
So this leaves us with the "World"... I will give UBI this one (as far as Authentic goes) because it shows where the main effort was placed and put into.
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The Cartel predominantly uses very rare limited production Russian small arms is it possible a couple thousand cartel members get them maybe, is it plausible not really those are a less a price issue and more a scarcity issue (doubtful the US would have access to so many very rare-brand new Russian small arms if you want to make the argument the US sold them to the Cartel)
If you want to see what the US has given to cartels in the past look no further than the Fast and Furious scandal where the ATF sold inexpensive small arms purchased on the US civilian market to the cartel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal and again any gov't agency is going to spend as little as they need to get the job done thats why cheap guns like the following where sold to the cartel in the failed sting operation.
AR pistols
Draco AK pistols
AMD
Zastava M70
Wasr 10
SKS
FAL
Mini 14
Saiga hunting rifles
Cheap AR15's
FN PS90
Microtech MSAR
Most of these are around $400-$600 and very common on the US civilian markets.
Don't think there is any president in for the US arming anyone with high dollar small arms and there is for inexpensive commonplace small arms.
For the Military of a very poor country arming every soldier (special unit or otherwise) with either a $2k+ rifle (R5 RGP) with a $2k+ optic (Elcan Specter DR) and a $15k sniper rifle (MSR) doesn't have any real world equivalent that I have ever seen (not to say one does not exist or couldn't) simply most gov'ts are not going to pay more than they have to and it's very unlikely they would pay that much when they could spend much much less to outfit them and accomplish the same task.
The number of helicopters is just completely out of place no defending that choice.
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I didn't even speak about bullet drop, what i was saying is that older GR didn't have realistic guns and bullet drop.Originally Posted by GiveMeTactical Go to original post
Are you telling me the guns aren't realistic ? Or what are you trying to say ?
Mechanics and AI behaviour, i actually never spoke about it. So don't know what has to do with it.
And yes my facts are real because see the weapons in game, do they look like real life? Yes. Same with equipment? Yes.
Did i spoke with the truth? Yes, unless you can prove otherwise. Which you didn't.
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Definition of predominantlyOriginally Posted by FerroMortem Go to original post
: for the most part
Yep some cartels use cheap equipment, but if you are a huge and important cartel, then no.
They do have money and a lot of contacts, if they want to, they can use more advanced weaponry, some govs do give money to this important cartels, why? Because business is business. Goverment's always are trying to stop cartels but that's showcase for the media, and yes they do catch some of them but they either agree with something or they just catch a nameless cartel member and kill a few for you to feel safe and that's the reality not some conspiracy theory. The guns come from Russia or the USA and they make their way to the cartels.
Bolivia isn't the one that supplied weapons to the Santa Blanca cartel.
Again this is a videogame a cartel can't take a country, they can be fire fights between cartels in some cities and some towns are controlled by them, but they wouldn't be able to control a country.
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agreed!Originally Posted by KenKoerperich Go to original post
GRW's bullet drop is the worst in video games i've played
i'm not a real-life shooter but i've played enough milsim games (mostly arma series) and watched enough videos to know that sniper rifles muzzle velocity doesn't drop that much as it is in GRW. if anyone look at another player shooting from any side you''ll see even the most powerful sniper rifle bullet start dropping in 300m, 400m tops.
meanwhile in arma series, me and my friends is still shooting at hostiles at the range of 300-400m using holographic sight or aimpoint. no, i'm not comparing arma with GRW but this bullet drop is just too ridiculous. . .
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So Future Soldier was better than this one? I honestly didn't think you'd ever say that!Originally Posted by GiveMeTactical Go to original post
There was no bullet drop in previous GRs was there? Certainly not on console versions.
