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[Kaijudub]

I'm guessing they feel pretty safe with their refund policy :


There you go, it basically says "buy at your own risk, we don't really care what happens next".
Studios not feeling or being accountable for what they deliver is not new - although companies producing AAA titles are usually more cautious about their image.

It just feels so wrong.

[Draghmar]

I still can't fathom how this is allowed to happen. i.e If I purchased faulty products anywhere else i'd be fully entitled to a refund. IF the company was renowned for producing faulty products or misleading the public with their products then trading standards get involved. How is it that Ubisoft can continue to release sub standard products without any kind of industry punishment?? IS mediocrity something thats just accepted in the gaming industry??

Exactly. Gamers are very forgiving and tends to close their eyes on things that are broken. Also it's quite a standard to shut up anyone who is vocal about something being wrong with things like 'you've paid some money, you played for some time, so you'r not entitled to anything'. It's really weird but game companines use this to their own advantage - they know they can release crap and people still eat it like it was finest meal ever.

I'm guessing they feel pretty safe with their refund policy :
There you go, it basically says "buy at your own risk, we don't really care what happens next".
Studios not feeling or being accountable for what they deliver is not new - although companies producing AAA titles are usually more cautious about their image.

Actually I'm not sure if it's that simple. They can say whatever they want in their terms but those have to be in line with law in the country they're selling their game. For example buying game in Poland and then opening it doesn't block you from returning it. Of course there are different types of return based on different things but still there are options.

[Gray360UK]

"Video games may NOT be returned if opened, unsealed, washed, worn, or non-defective"

Sorry what? Washed? Worn? Who does this with video games? Why do they? What's wrong with these people?

[Dhaleks]

Actually I'm not sure if it's that simple. They can say whatever they want in their terms but those have to be in line with law in the country they're selling their game. For example buying game in Poland and then opening it doesn't block you from returning it. Of course there are different types of return based on different things but still there are options.

This is true for physical copies, but nowadays, most people buy digital content (well, on PC at least) - and laws can be more fuzzy in that area.
Digital releases have more limits/disadvantages than physical games : you have less time or no possibility at all to ask for a refund, you don't really "own" the title you bought (just the "license" to use it, so to speak), you need a constant connection to use it or install/reinstall it, etc etc...

Not to mention that all countries are not on par regarding legislation about Internet, some being quite late to the party; in this context, the average consumer weights absolutely nothing : I mean, who's gonna bother with a lawsuit? :/

[Draghmar]

This is true for physical copies, but nowadays, most people buy digital content (well, on PC at least) - and laws can be more fuzzy in that area.
Digital releases have more limits/disadvantages than physical games : you have less time or no possibility at all to ask for a refund, you don't really "own" the title you bought (just the "license" to use it, so to speak), you need a constant connection to use it or install/reinstall it, etc etc...

Not to mention that all countries are not on par regarding legislation about Internet, some being quite late to the party; in this context, the average consumer weights absolutely nothing : I mean, who's gonna bother with a lawsuit? :/

Yeah, but you quoted something that was about physical, not only digital.

Even if you buy physical copy you actually buy license. This was the case for a long, long time. There are limits of not owning something but owner of the license still needs to deliver something that was advertised (at least in my country) because if something is not right it's a case of broken agreement between seller and buyer. For example if I would find out that my hardware struggles to display content fluently even if it meet official requirements then I'm entitled to get refund. And in this case they could have whatever they want in their terms because no company's terms are above law. This is one of the reasons there so many technical information on the boxes.

Yes, it's true that different countries has different take on this matter. That's why I've said that it differ in each country.
Lawsuit? It doesn't have to be something so extreme. In Poland there is a institution that helps consumers with legal rights after they bought something and the company (or shop) that sold them this product don't want to respect local law. At most cases that is more then enough.

[XxHunterHxX]

Its ez..just stop buying ubi games...by now if you dont know they put out ****ty games then its your fault not thers.....im not intersted in the new ac or far cry i know they will be broken day 1 i know its the same booring crap and i know they ir the type of games you play for 3 hours and ghet bored and wasted 60+ euros for a 3 hour fun and then uninstal the game so just dont buy ubi games its simple unles the game is like 10 euros 15 max since all the game they put out dont deserve more then 10-15 euros

[Archeun]

For Honor is not going to be fixed anytime in the next 6 months. I suspect they demolished the development team after launch and are working with a skeleton crew. Ubisoft has lost my money. Skull and Bones looks really good but I will not even consider purchasing it until I am 1000% sure that the game is not only playable and balanced but has a community that isn't full of negative nellies and their Elite equivalent the Git Gud turds.

[bmason1000]

but has a community that isn't full of negative nellies and their Elite equivalent the Git Gud turds.

Is that even possible in video games?

[corpsep4rty]

the chances of this game turning around is absolute zero. We have no hope left, We tried. But the developers just don't want to save this game.

It's over

[Arekonator]

Sad thing about For Honor and imo reason why there is so much hate, is because the game got potential to be SO MUCH BETTER with comparatively little effort if there was a will to do so.