HOW DEFENSIVE META RUINS THE GAME videos... (please refrain from idiotic comments) | Forums

[Gemoroda]

So Ubisoft! You wanted FEEDBACK? Whell heres some FEEDBACK

I cand count on my fingers how many times ive complained about the defensive meta and the gb after the parry. i taught i saw that the parry had way less of a timing opening to do when i entered the test servers, AND that lights werent able to be parried. GOD WAS I WRONG.
Video 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NmdkSzMfmY

i actually took this video of a fight against a shinobi to show the defensive meta, and i think il post a new video of this defensive meta **** and the parry gb spam as often as i can until you decide to do something about it sooner then soon. i thing this is a problem on the same level as connection issues.

+ that shinobi still has an unpunishable kick except if you manage to miraculously hit him during the start up animation of the kick (like Godly reflexes... and im not God's cousin)
if a shinoby manages to do his kick (and lets say you're not god and hit him at the start up - i exagerate for the fun of it so i wont burst in rage over this ****) the only logical thing to do is EVADE and do something. because the kick has hyper armor. fine. but noooooo. the moment you try to punish the kick and the shinobi sees this (because lets facet, you have to be a ****** to not see) he enters the back flip that guess what, IT HAS HYPER ARMOR. so try to punish shinobis kick and you still get punished by him. like the punisher punisher. WOW INCEPTION. video time 1:23
++ shinobi has hiper armor on wake up. so guess what. manage to gb him and trow him down, try to hit him? hahaha jokes on you. you get punished because he can parry on wake up (that damn hyper armor. why didnt the devs gave him a hyper armor that NEVER GOES AWAY?) video time 0:59
+++ further more, if a shinobi is at the ledge and does his back flip and you hit him or SIELD BASH or SHOVE or SHOULDER BASH or SPARTAN KICK (tested on SHOULDER BASH but i guess all work on the same principle) guess what...? HES INVULNERABLE AND CAN PUNISH YOU BACK! VIDEO TIME 2:09(without the punish).

Beside this the match was a total F fest of a defensive meta that only ran parryed kicked and so and so.

Next videos coming soon.

[ChampionRuby50g]

I watched the video, and honestly dude, you just seem really salty more than anything.
First of you start by saying wow then when questioned about it you say nothing, play. You don't back yourself up, the shinobi was right In calling out the fact that you did just run, and actually went to stand by a ledge, a move considered scummy by the vast majority of the FH community. Granted the shinobi was playing that way too, but don't be a hypocrite.

You seem to be bashing a Shinobis moveset more than giving constructive criticism. I would say the defensive meta patch is coming soon but I know you'd get angry at me and Ubisoft. But do you honestly think complaining this much is going to bring the patch sooner? Would you rather then rush it out quicker and realese it with bugs to appease people like you, who'd then complain how broken the patch was? Be patient for once.
i believe a shinobi nerf is coming again, so hopefully the Shinobis ability to control the entire fight is nullified. But seriously if he's playing like that you just fell right into his hands. If you see a turtle and a player like that, your option is to go all out into him and do exactly what they want? No. Wrong way to go about it. Turtle up yourself and just be patient. That's my feedback to you.

[Decembre.]

I watched the video, and honestly dude, you just seem really salty more than anything.
First of you start by saying wow then when questioned about it you say nothing, play. You don't back yourself up, the shinobi was right In calling out the fact that you did just run, and actually went to stand by a ledge, a move considered scummy by the vast majority of the FH community. Granted the shinobi was playing that way too, but don't be a hypocrite.

You seem to be bashing a Shinobis moveset more than giving constructive criticism. I would say the defensive meta patch is coming soon but I know you'd get angry at me and Ubisoft. But do you honestly think complaining this much is going to bring the patch sooner? Would you rather then rush it out quicker and realese it with bugs to appease people like you, who'd then complain how broken the patch was? Be patient for once.
i believe a shinobi nerf is coming again, so hopefully the Shinobis ability to control the entire fight is nullified. But seriously if he's playing like that you just fell right into his hands. If you see a turtle and a player like that, your option is to go all out into him and do exactly what they want? No. Wrong way to go about it. Turtle up yourself and just be patient. That's my feedback to you.

Agreed. There are "real" turtles that "never" even throw an attack.

[Gemoroda]

I watched the video, and honestly dude, you just seem really salty more than anything.
First of you start by saying wow then when questioned about it you say nothing, play. You don't back yourself up, the shinobi was right In calling out the fact that you did just run, and actually went to stand by a ledge, a move considered scummy by the vast majority of the FH community. Granted the shinobi was playing that way too, but don't be a hypocrite.

You seem to be bashing a Shinobis moveset more than giving constructive criticism. I would say the defensive meta patch is coming soon but I know you'd get angry at me and Ubisoft. But do you honestly think complaining this much is going to bring the patch sooner? Would you rather then rush it out quicker and realese it with bugs to appease people like you, who'd then complain how broken the patch was? Be patient for once.
i believe a shinobi nerf is coming again, so hopefully the Shinobis ability to control the entire fight is nullified. But seriously if he's playing like that you just fell right into his hands. If you see a turtle and a player like that, your option is to go all out into him and do exactly what they want? No. Wrong way to go about it. Turtle up yourself and just be patient. That's my feedback to you.

OK
1 Lets get past the salt part, because even if i have excuses, theres no reason to be like this so il edit spoiler allert on the post.
2 the part where i get angry, yea sure. ur right but nor rly at u or ubisoft because after the rage i have and the things i say i know why they take so long. but thats why we all talk **** here. because we are so annoyed that this is the firs thing that could... calm the 4H beast in us!

now il state what you taught i did wrong and why i think youre wront (a little) to "judge" (not judge judge):
first you have to think about the fact that not all players go whine on forums on the first **** it happens to them and ask for nerfs. i come from 3 or four (dont remember exactly) tournaments literally full of defensive metas (except 1 2 players that beat the crap out of me with style). that could get someone so enraged that after the 3rd tournament he actuallt takes 30 minutes of "why not get on with it and just play" time t0 search instal use cut upload video on youtube and writing a long post about it! (i copuld have just gone with "defensive meta SMASH" as hulk would say) the fact that im bashing shinobis game play isnt just for funand after enaugh matches where constructive critics that are not working (likeorochis using the flicker bug and telling back i have no ideea what that is, AS AN OROCHI MAIN...) you get tired. so "wow" fallowed by "nothing. play" was a good alternative for not losing my mind. its because from all of the turtle metas, shinoby seems to have the only spammable unpunishable (actually be punishing themselves) move, and that is DDK (shadow kick or whatever) and if it fails to land and someone starts ****, he backflips because the kick has armor and the backflip has armour to (and i think both of them have a react time, i think)and they basicaly dont give you enaugh chances to actuallky make a difference in the game since you cant really punish a good shinoby (i think DDK LL and back flip works to since it goes something like armour fast light, fallowed by confirmed light, armour)
i dont think that this defense meta patch will come soon and most surely as with any other majority of for honor patches will actually make a diference. but small changes like unpoaryable light for example and only heavies to be parried could be done in a week max. this persist from may, no,april, no, march, no ,FEBRUARY when the game was released. its not something as hard or complicated as conectivity issues (i think).
and as for the last part where you said i felt into his hands,your completly right. but i mainly bash defensive meta players because ive tryed this to. but its ABSOUTELY no fun, not engaging at all and just 2 playuers staring at eachother and decide to wait utill the other cracks. nnow thats action...

(im sorry for all my english miss spells but im not english native and only slept 1 hour out of 24 and in tired as hell. but i really wanted to take my time and calmly explain the reasons behind these videos and hope people wont jump at the first allwais lame conclusion that the player complaining about something doesnt know how to play or that he asks for nerfs because he cant "git gud" or learn to play defensive to because defens is part of the game.
I agree but momentarely for honor doesnt revolve on action, it revolves on defense. witch is bad in my oppinion!

[AzureSky.]

You tried to ledge him..... also he punished your actions with better ones, nothing else to say, he pounded you hard.

Thats not turtle meta, thats R*pe

[Gemoroda]

I watched the video, and honestly dude, you just seem really salty more than anything.
First of you start by saying wow then when questioned about it you say nothing, play. You don't back yourself up, the shinobi was right In calling out the fact that you did just run, and actually went to stand by a ledge, a move considered scummy by the vast majority of the FH community. Granted the shinobi was playing that way too, but don't be a hypocrite.

You seem to be bashing a Shinobis moveset more than giving constructive criticism. I would say the defensive meta patch is coming soon but I know you'd get angry at me and Ubisoft. But do you honestly think complaining this much is going to bring the patch sooner? Would you rather then rush it out quicker and realese it with bugs to appease people like you, who'd then complain how broken the patch was? Be patient for once.
i believe a shinobi nerf is coming again, so hopefully the Shinobis ability to control the entire fight is nullified. But seriously if he's playing like that you just fell right into his hands. If you see a turtle and a player like that, your option is to go all out into him and do exactly what they want? No. Wrong way to go about it. Turtle up yourself and just be patient. That's my feedback to you.

You tried to ledge him..... also he punished your actions with better ones, nothing else to say, he pounded you hard.

Thats not turtle meta, thats R*pe

Man some people are hard headed. like you didnt even bothered to read. 2:09. unpunishable and not even trow off the ledge. because hyper armor. so start wit a hyper armor move and end with a hyper armor move.

Thats what i asked to think a little before answering. do i wont need to make this pointless explications again.