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Shugoki's run got nerfed, devs said its no fun to have a free heavy attack.
Then they made Centurion which takes away your stamina and puts you on the ground, might even give him a full free kill or at least takes away like half your health. 'just dodge' ye whatever they will keep spamming the same **** untill they did it right 1 time and you're f*cked. **** game nerf the wrong sh*t.
I dont see many shugokis still they had to nerf him. While others get nasty combo sh*t etc.
Sigh.
Senior Member
Shugos run was far more dangerous in the right hands. They went way too far with it but oni cheese shugo would stomp any variation of centurion thus far. It doesn't give him a free kill it gives 35 damage if you are on the ground or if he knows to do the zone he can do 50. Most don't do the zone so more often than it's just 35, that's far from killing you or half your health. They need you to screw up way more than once, stop exaggerating. The only guaranteed damage from a kick is a light attack and same with the jab. Everything following that can be defended against so you are making way more than one mistake.Originally Posted by LKBlanka Go to original post
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I agree, they nerfed shugo and introduced cent (very funny)Originally Posted by LKBlanka Go to original post
and just so you know i dont think cent will be nerfed badly ( just a little) but he is getting a nerf just to please the players who hate him. but at the sme time they dont want to lose his players. so yea we are stuck with cent. you see how he nerfed shinobi to the ground hahaha.i veleive for honor deves love and only care about the knight faction and maybe viking. but for sure not samurai. (don't beleive me) look at every hero and see how many good heros in each faction.
Junior Member
His run was far more dangerous cause he got a heavy lmao ye right.
Ye call me a noob whatever dude, but cent just fkn sucks big time. I can be full health and him just 1 bar and i still lose because of his stupid moveset,Why should a chracter be designed in a way its instant win vs noobs anyway?
But the thing is why nerf Shugoki, reason given doesn't make sense. Because like all nerds say about Cent 'just dodge'. SOOOOO just dodge or even gb....does not make sense to nerf Shugoki at all !
Senior Member
It was way better, which is why you shugo was destroying the tourney scene when oni cheese was discovered and centurion is non existant. but its not because of his moveset, you lose because you failed to defend yourself. At a certain point its time to stop solely putting the blame on the character and realize its also you. Shugokis run was too safe, it was a 50/50 that couldn't be punished. Everything centurion has can be defended against or punished.Originally Posted by LKBlanka Go to original post
Community Manager
Centurion having a nasty impact on the game certainly wasn't something that was intended upon release. There's only so much internal playtesting is able to catch, in terms of potentially abusive gameplay, compared to when the entire playerbase starts playing them. The community has been very responsive about the Centurion and we are using that feedback to address him in a future update. As for bug Shugo, there's no plans right now to give him back those free heavies, but promoting his charge as a core strategy to winning with him was not our attention and therefore the charge was nerfed. While those no plans to address his charge again, that doesn't mean we won't in the future.
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Community Manager
We've seen the question a lot and we're looking into getting more info on that.Originally Posted by Dzucc Go to original post
Senior Member
I'm guessing it's either an oversight, or an intended-but-bad decision.Originally Posted by Dzucc Go to original post
It seems like when the introduced the "Lion's Pounce" trait, they didn't really think about what it would do to UI states. Unfortunately, that's brought out a seriously disturbing situation where even Shugoki's UIS -- one of the game's strongest UI stance -- doesn't offer protection. Compare it to Shugoki's light attacks, which have a special trait that ignores being interrupted by normal blocks, but still respects superior blocks.
One of the cent's problems -- not necessarily balance related -- is that it just has too many features that are exempt from common rules, which border on the levels of being more of a glitch than a mechanic.
The only move in game that stands upto centurion's Lion's Pounce "pin", is Demon's Embrace -- which is an absolute UI -- nothing in the game stops Shug's Demon's Embrace unless you kill him before it connects. All the rest... Warlord heavies.. revenge mode.. Lawbringer shove... etc etc whatever that has UI, the cent ignores it all, even with a normal, blockable heavy.
Junior Member
Embrace gets blocked if you hit him or dodge ofc, its a high risk for the shugoki, if you miss you'll lose a lot of health which makes it a move you only should use when it has a higher chance of succes like after wall stun, its a high risk with just medium benefits.Originally Posted by kweassa1 Go to original post
And i dont think they will do something for shugoki since nobody cares, hes so unpopular lol.
Like this guy says from 9 minutes : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBxDh21_ajA see im right you're dead cause u dont have time to dodge enough. especially with shugoki hes slow. Its also not very clear for me how to parry centurion.
