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[LightUpTheEyes]

To start I want to say he shouldn't be able to knock anyone down whose not out of stamina. His fully charged punch should just knock you back and stun you. Second his feints should cost more stam and his kick should cost more stam (about half i would say) but connecting with the kick should deal more stam damage to his opponent.

[XxHunterHxX]

He has high dmg/fast atacks/stun/high stamina/he can combo you out of stamina or down to out of stamina +1 hp bar left the caracter is so broken its not evenfunny

what they need is to

1.Nerf his stamina pool its waYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much
2.Make his atacks do less dmg
3.Make it so you cant combo a guy so much once you ghet it he might as well just give up and let you kill hem its stupid
4.His zone atack should only be 2 atacks with less dmg
5.Kick consumes lots of stamina so he cant spamm it all day long in 4 v 4
6.If you ghet kicked by 1 centurion in 4 v 4 and another one kicks you should not count as a stamina drain

the list is so long you might as well just remove the caracter that's how broken he is

[LightUpTheEyes]

He has high dmg/fast atacks/stun/high stamina/he can combo you out of stamina or down to out of stamina +1 hp bar left the caracter is so broken its not evenfunny

what they need is to

1.Nerf his stamina pool its waYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much
2.Make his atacks do less dmg
3.Make it so you cant combo a guy so much once you ghet it he might as well just give up and let you kill hem its stupid
4.His zone atack should only be 2 atacks with less dmg
5.Kick consumes lots of stamina so he cant spamm it all day long in 4 v 4
6.If you ghet kicked by 1 centurion in 4 v 4 and another one kicks you should not count as a stamina drain

the list is so long you might as well just remove the caracter that's how broken he is

He's not that bad to fight against. My main problem is the fact he can knock you down. I don't think he should be able to if you're not out of stam. Once knocked down you're pretty much dead because he jumps on you and his team mates just heavy you.

[GladiatorHood]

He has high dmg/fast atacks/stun/high stamina/he can combo you out of stamina or down to out of stamina +1 hp bar left the caracter is so broken its not evenfunny

what they need is to

1.Nerf his stamina pool its waYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much
2.Make his atacks do less dmg
3.Make it so you cant combo a guy so much once you ghet it he might as well just give up and let you kill hem its stupid
4.His zone atack should only be 2 atacks with less dmg
5.Kick consumes lots of stamina so he cant spamm it all day long in 4 v 4
6.If you ghet kicked by 1 centurion in 4 v 4 and another one kicks you should not count as a stamina drain
the list is so long you might as well just remove the caracter that's how broken he is

Its funny how i see u comment on every centurion topic trying to get him down, lol loser

[XxHunterHxX]

Its funny how i see u comment on every centurion topic trying to get him down, lol loser

and reported

[Gastgrinder]

and reported

well done

[Antonioj26]

He has high dmg/fast atacks/stun/high stamina/he can combo you out of stamina or down to out of stamina +1 hp bar left the caracter is so broken its not evenfunny

what they need is to

1.Nerf his stamina pool its waYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much
2.Make his atacks do less dmg
3.Make it so you cant combo a guy so much once you ghet it he might as well just give up and let you kill hem its stupid
4.His zone atack should only be 2 atacks with less dmg
5.Kick consumes lots of stamina so he cant spamm it all day long in 4 v 4
6.If you ghet kicked by 1 centurion in 4 v 4 and another one kicks you should not count as a stamina drain

the list is so long you might as well just remove the caracter that's how broken he is

1. true
2. his attacks already do low damage. His heavies do the lowest damage tied with valk and conq, and his lights on average are also very low. The problem is he has too much confirmed damage
3. this isn't the case. Every move he makes after an intial attack can be defended against and often punished
4. this would be a buff if you only made it two hits since the third is a easy parry with out unlock tech. probably should do less damage though
5. his stamina just needs to be reduced, its already 25 stamina per kick
6. maybe, but it wouldn't really make sense to do this to only one character. If two conqs were shield bashing you the stam drain wouldn't change, so if they did that to cent they probably should with everyone.

[SirCorrino]

Some of my suggestions for fixing him from a previous post:

Quick band-aid fixes to Dominion:

- Remove jab follow-up from blocked attacks.
- Remove jab knockdown except against OOS targets
- Remove pin effect from charged heavy against targets in Revenge
- The recovery frames from Eagle's Talon can no longer be interrupted by taking damage, it will continue through any hits except knockdowns/backs. Alternatively, if the Cent is knocked out of his recovery his target immediately stands up with a 1s all-guard + immunity for CC.
- Eagle's Talon should not extend the time target spends on the ground.
- Reduce the stamina drain of all his attacks by 50%.

Make these changes immediately and he stops being a problem in 4v4. If he becomes too weak give him small, incremental buffs. But his 1v1 viability is not worth ruining 4v4 for everyone else.

[Claudius_Katt]

Some of my suggestions for fixing him from a previous post:

Quick band-aid fixes to Dominion:

- Remove jab follow-up from blocked attacks.
- Remove jab knockdown except against OOS targets
- Remove pin effect from charged heavy against targets in Revenge
- The recovery frames from Eagle's Talon can no longer be interrupted by taking damage, it will continue through any hits except knockdowns/backs. Alternatively, if the Cent is knocked out of his recovery his target immediately stands up with a 1s all-guard + immunity for CC.
- Eagle's Talon should not extend the time target spends on the ground.
- Reduce the stamina drain of all his attacks by 50%.

Make these changes immediately and he stops being a problem in 4v4. If he becomes too weak give him small, incremental buffs. But his 1v1 viability is not worth ruining 4v4 for everyone else.

This sounds very reasonable but regardless something really needs to happen ASAP.
Especially since dominion is/was the most played game mode,
I fall into the camp that feels there is minimal issues with Centurion but even I am beggining to think the character is getting out of control.
Even the bots are toxic to play against if they group up.

[Knight_Raime]

To start I want to say he shouldn't be able to knock anyone down whose not out of stamina. His fully charged punch should just knock you back and stun you. Second his feints should cost more stam and his kick should cost more stam (about half i would say) but connecting with the kick should deal more stam damage to his opponent.

I don't really agree with these changes. His whole kit is actually sub par compared to others. The way he gets damage (against decent players) is by putting those players into situations where they can't do something back. I.E a wall stun, his pin combo, a light parry combo, and his parry follow up. Making it harder for him to knock someone down in general is just going to hurt his kit far too much.
I don't know what centurions you fight. But centurion's hard feint doesn't see much use due to it's weird timing. You can't reliably hard feint and follow up with a light after. And there are just some attacks you'd eat trying to parry off of a hard feint.

His kick costs comparable stamina compared to other unblockable bashes. If the problem is kick spam here it's better just to reduce the amount of stam damage it does and reducing the stun effect. Both only occuring if the opponent is being repeatedly kicked in a short period of time.

he's UP in 1v1 and only over tuned in 4v4 due to hero stacking. Adding diminishing returns to his attacks if spammed would address the issue in 4v4.