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What a time to be alive. LB is finally really good. The only problem is that LB is more than really good right now with the guard update. He's the best turtle around. As long as you have reactions to block, you can easily turn any fight into a 50/50 fight (perhaps easier than warden could). LB is my most played character (though I play them all) so please don't try to bring the hurr durr you lost to a LB argument here. I think LB may be in need of a slight adjustment in the near future to help remedy his new extremely safe turtle to victory mode he's recently been gifted. I think a good adjustment that wouldn't completely undermind his buff would be to return his shove on block to its prebuff stage. That way he couldn't play risk free and would actually have to do something. This would be leaving his shove on heavy and shove on dodge the same 50/50 result as his current status. It's also not removing his shove on block totally, as it's a powerful momentum breaking tool, but just turning the follow up down a notch. V1.08 is still relatively new, so I haven't seen much attention to it yet, but it is inbound. Any thoughts on the matter? I love to discuss.
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Also a LB main here, and can see where you are coming from but you said the key word.
Turtle.
I think that you should wait until after they release the defensive meta patch, let's see what changes they want to implement and how they will effect gameplay before we call for another change to him after the guard stance changes.
I personally never turtle because it's not my play style, I love been aggressive. It seems the issue isn't the LB himself but as you said the "turtle to victory" method.
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I see what you're saying and I'd normally agree, but from what the devs have been saying so far about the defensive fix, its most likely going to be a parry nerf/rework and implementation of chip damage (not regening your last bar would be cool too). But from what I can gather, these changes wouldn't really affect LB, as the block shove mixup is a part of his kit, not an overall fundamental game mechanic that can be mimicked by other characters (like parrying and whatnot). It would require specific attention to specifically that mechanic.
