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[Snickers-Bar]

I would not dare to say the people here on forum are less competitive when in the competitve subreddit there is a crazy guy asking for PK buff lol.

[ScottJund]

I would not dare to say the people here on forum are less competitive when in the competitve subreddit there is a crazy guy asking for PK buff lol.

And that dude got downvoted and made fun of for being stupid.

[Gray360UK]

Alernakin posting here was a terrible decision. The people here are not even remotely competitive so the responses to his topic (which is completely correct btw) is going to be met with the same people who cried for Warden to be nerfed into insignificance that don't really understand the game at higher level. There's no way to not sound smug saying that, but its 100% true.

You are smug so how would you not sound it?

The key point, which you touch on, is that people here are not remotely like you. What you get wrong is that you believe that automatically makes them inferior, stupid and not worth listening to. Their opinions are automatically invalid and their experiences mean nothing. Even when they outnumber you massively and so, actually represent the game and it's balance far more accurately than you do. You represent nothing.

Even if we accept that anyone beneath your lofty superior level cannot understand the game (would just like to add at this point how repulsive I think people like you with this attitude are) then again, bearing in mind that they massively outnumber you and actually represent the game and what happens in it in a way you can never do, the game needs to be balanced around them. They are the players. They are the game.

You are basically a smug version of Beethoven telling people how easy it is to play the piano. A smug Picasso telling people how easy it is to paint. A smug Kasparov telling people how easy it is to play Chess. So yes, let's make Chess harder because Kasparov.





Now go and scrub yourself clean after exposing yourself to the great unwashed masses.

[Dizzy4213]

I would not dare to say the people here on forum are less competitive when in the competitve subreddit there is a crazy guy asking for PK buff lol.

Just ignore these so-called competitive players. They can continue to blow smoke up each other's *** for all I care.

The people here are not even remotely competitive so the responses to his topic (which is completely correct btw) is going to be met with the same people who cried for Warden to be nerfed into insignificance that don't really understand the game at higher level. There's no way to not sound smug saying that, but its 100% true.

Get off your high horse will you. So everyone that posts here is automatically a scrub low-tier player huh? Piss off with your 'high-level' ****. It doesn't exist! High level in this game is nothing more than a contest where whoever can use those most broken hero/turtle the best/abuse the most exploits, wins.

[ScottJund]

You are smug so how would you not sound it?

The key point, which you touch on, is that people here are not remotely like you. What you get wrong is that you believe that automatically makes them inferior, stupid and not worth listening to. Their opinions are automatically invalid and their experiences mean nothing. Even when they outnumber you massively and so, actually represent the game and it's balance far more accurately than you do. You represent nothing.

Even if we accept that anyone beneath your lofty superior level cannot understand the game (would just like to add at this point how repulsive I think people like you with this attitude are) then again, bearing in mind that they massively outnumber you and actually represent the game and what happens in it in a way you can never do, the game needs to be balanced around them. They are the players. They are the game.

You are basically a smug version of Beethoven telling people who easy it is to play the piano. A smug Picasso telling people who easy it is to paint. A smug Kasparov telling people how easy it is to play Chess. So yes, let's make Chess harder because Kasparov.





Now go and scrub yourself clean after exposing yourself to the great unwashed masses.

Okay but that is not how any fighting game ever in history has ever been balanced so that is a bad idea. You balance fighting games around tournament winners - its how its been done since fighting games were a thing. If you don't do that, no one takes the game seriously, which means no one supports it competitively, which means no new players become interested in the game, which means the game withers away until it dies.

Also your analogies just get funnier and funnier.

You're also completely missing the point. I agree Nobushi isn't great in 1v1. That's not what anyone is talking about. She is absolutely monstrous in 2v2 and 4v4 though, and that means she needs a 1v1 buff and a 2v2/4v4 nerf.

[Blasto95]

You are smug so how would you not sound it?

The key point, which you touch on, is that people here are not remotely like you. What you get wrong is that you believe that automatically makes them inferior, stupid and not worth listening to. Their opinions are automatically invalid and their experiences mean nothing. Even when they outnumber you massively and so, actually represent the game and it's balance far more accurately than you do. You represent nothing.

Even if we accept that anyone beneath your lofty superior level cannot understand the game (would just like to add at this point how repulsive I think people like you with this attitude are) then again, bearing in mind that they massively outnumber you and actually represent the game and what happens in it in a way you can never do, the game needs to be balanced around them. They are the players. They are the game.

You are basically a smug version of Beethoven telling people how easy it is to play the piano. A smug Picasso telling people how easy it is to paint. A smug Kasparov telling people how easy it is to play Chess. So yes, let's make Chess harder because Kasparov.





Now go and scrub yourself clean after exposing yourself to the great unwashed masses.

Again...they are not asking for these heroes to be nerfed directly in a way that would severely impact the majority of players. OP even mentioned how Nobushi would be getting a buff along with other Samurai. And I can imagine they are really fearful of a competitive scene where its Nobushi or bust. Theres plenty of ways to nerf a character especially for a competitive level where most people would never notice there was a nerf to begin with.

And these 2 guys are certainly being a lot less hostile than some others in this thread and are getting blasted for voicing their opinions which happen to be right from their experience.

[ScottJund]

Just ignore these so-called competitive players. They can continue to blow smoke up each other's *** for all I care.



Get off your high horse will you. So everyone that posts here is automatically a scrub low-tier player huh? Piss off with your 'high-level' ****. It doesn't exist! High level in this game is nothing more than a contest where whoever can use those most broken hero/turtle the best/abuse the most exploits, wins.

I said people here aren't competitive because people literally in this thread are saying stuff like "bearing in mind that they massively outnumber you and actually represent the game and what happens in it in a way you can never do, the game needs to be balanced around them. They are the players. They are the game." which implies the game should be balanced for casual players, which is a perfectly fine view to have but uh...yeah, I stand by what I said. People here are not competitive at all.

[Existentialmeme]

OP nice thread, but yeah posting it on here really doesn't work...
Reading your post I can tell you're a competitive player, knowing how to effectively use unlocks and locking onto different characters to make an effective attack.

Most people on here are casual players and probably haven't thought of using these kind of tactics, myself included.
Although I do sometimes use lock on switch to effective deal with ganks, but not to the level that you do.

Just commenting to give some support, a lot of characters can be strong in the right hands, but I guess to majority of people Nobushi is not as good as you think, I can't say much because I've only used her a little.

Gonna try some of the stuff you mentioned tho, thanks

Edit: The unlock things also might not be what the devs intended, so there's also that

[Gray360UK]

I said people here aren't competitive because people literally in this thread are saying stuff like "bearing in mind that they massively outnumber you and actually represent the game and what happens in it in a way you can never do, the game needs to be balanced around them. They are the players. They are the game." which implies the game should be balanced for casual players, which is a perfectly fine view to have but uh...yeah, I stand by what I said. People here are not competitive at all.

No you said it because you are smug. You said it before the comment you are quoting as a reason for you saying it ...

Nothing is implied btw. I am quite happy to spell out that the game should not be balanced around people with their head as far up their own arse as you. People who believe the world revolves around them and they know better than everyone else. The 'everyone else' that you look down on is the playerbase, you are not. At the end of the day, if things are done to please you and they do not please the playerbase, then (more) people will stop playing the game. You think balancing around people like you is working out well so far in terms of how happy the community is with the state of the game?

All those people you look down on are the ones that decide whether the game is a success or not. It's Ubisofts call, but if they want to suck up to people like you who couldn't give a rats arse about the community and the general playability of the game then it will be their loss.

[Blasto95]

No you said it because you are smug. You said it before the comment you are quoting as a reason for you saying it ...

Nothing is implied btw. I am quite happy to spell out that the game should not be balanced around people with their head as far up their own arse as you. People who believe the world revolves around them and they know better than everyone else. The 'everyone else' that you look down on is the playerbase, you are not. At the end of the day, if things are done to please you and they do not please the playerbase, then (more) people will stop playing the game. You think balancing around people like you is working out well so far in terms of how happy the community is with the state of the game?

All those people you look down on are the ones that decide whether the game is a success or not. It's Ubisofts call, but if they want to suck up to people like you who couldn't give a rats arse about the community and the general playability of the game then it will be their loss.

Just go ahead and keep ignoring all my valid points lol. Did they ever say they wanted Nobushi balanced for everyone? They want it balanced for competitive, which means PLENTY aspects of her kit can be left untouched for the majority, in fact they could continue buffing her and it would possibly not effect her at all for competitive play. Vice versa, fix her at a competitive level and the 98% would potentially not even notice a change