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  1. #1

    Romove the quit penalty, or fix your connectivity.

    Why should I be penalized for leaving a game where move mechanics are inconsistent? I am fed up with the connectivity/host advantage can be so bad that your character's move do not work properly. I just left this game where a charged fist followed by charged jab did not knockdown any opponents even though I was hitting them. That's super frustrating since any of the other characters can dodge right out of your range yet still hit you.
    I should not have to stay in a game where the move set doesn't work because you've thrown me into a game which won't quite sync up.
    Again; Remove the quit penalty or fix your connectivity issues.
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    Originally Posted by verifun Go to original post
    Why should I be penalized for leaving a game where move mechanics are inconsistent? I am fed up with the connectivity/host advantage can be so bad that your character's move do not work properly. I just left this game where a charged fist followed by charged jab did not knockdown any opponents even though I was hitting them. That's super frustrating since any of the other characters can dodge right out of your range yet still hit you.
    I should not have to stay in a game where the move set doesn't work because you've thrown me into a game which won't quite sync up.
    Again; Remove the quit penalty or fix your connectivity issues.
    If you didn't like the conditions imposed, or what might happen, you shouldn't have joined a game in the first place. Nobody forced you to join and play. You did that on your own choice.

    What you're basically saying is you only want to play against classes you don't have any problems with... but sorry, once you enter the game, you're committed.


    Contrary to popular belief, you don't have the right to quit anytime you want. The game just didn't have any way to properly reprimand such actions -- now it does.

    Once you agree to play a multiplayer match with/against other people, you're bound by the morals and committment of basic sportsmanship. You play a game, see it through the end, and accept the results. Every game you've won normally in FH, someone else did that for you. They could've left and crashed the game. Maybe they didn't like playing against you. Maybe they hate your class. But they still played through even if the outcome was a defeat. Every single of your winning moments in the game was made possible because your opponents and your team members observed that moral obligation.

    If you can't do that, don't play with other people in the first place and go play alone. If you only want to play against certain classes, if you only want to play winning games, if you never want to face some players/classes you wish not to, you can always play singleplayer -- got no committments at all.
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    You are not very good at content analysis, are you? The complaint was about connectivity, not class imbalance. If you read my post, I used the class-based incident as an example of why the connectivity issue was frustrating. There are move mechanics that always should be consistent; and they aren't when you can see NATS floating between red and yellow. It's just not fun to stay in a game when your moves don't work despite being properly executed. There are people who quit just because things don't go their way due to player skill, but if you had BADIC READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS, you'd see that wasn't why I justify the removal for the quit penalty. Learn to address the facts before you put on your 'holier than thou' robe and project things on me.
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    Originally Posted by verifun Go to original post
    You are not very good at content analysis, are you? The complaint was about connectivity, not class imbalance. If you read my post, I used the class-based incident as an example of why the connectivity issue was frustrating. There are move mechanics that always should be consistent; and they aren't when you can see NATS floating between red and yellow. It's just not fun to stay in a game when your moves don't work despite being properly executed. There are people who quit just because things don't go their way due to player skill, but if you had BADIC READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS, you'd see that wasn't why I justify the removal for the quit penalty. Learn to address the facts before you put on your 'holier than thou' robe and project things on me.
    You know that connection is an issue and yet you play. that is your choice. we all know going into matches somebody will lag time to time and **** wont go right because of it. stay in your match and quit *****ing
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    Look at this guy faulting me for not wanting to stay in a game where no combos work. Yes, idiot; I'd like the game I PAID MONEY FOR to be consistent, and if there's an incident where it's not performing up to reasonable expectations I'd like to be able to leave the session without being faulted. Hey dummy; your argument is like saying that if you went to a restaurant and paid $100.00 for dinner and the entire thing was brought out burned to a crisp, you should still pay for it and eat it too. Would you be cool with that? Think before you speak( if you are even capable) and cuss me out for not wanting to buy a burned steak. Dummy.
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    Originally Posted by verifun Go to original post
    Look at this guy faulting me for not wanting to stay in a game where no combos work. Yes, idiot; I'd like the game I PAID MONEY FOR to be consistent, and if there's an incident where it's not performing up to reasonable expectations I'd like to be able to leave the session without being faulted. Hey dummy; your argument is like saying that if you went to a restaurant and paid $100.00 for dinner and the entire thing was brought out burned to a crisp, you should still pay for it and eat it too. Would you be cool with that? Think before you speak( if you are even capable) and cuss me out for not wanting to buy a burned steak. Dummy.
    Look at it this way. I believe that now Ubi can tell the difference between someone who leaves or someone who DCS, they are now able to see the issues causing disconnects a lot easier than before, and through the leaver Penalty they can make stability updates that will work in the near future.

    But Known Killa is right. In this case you know the steak is already burnt yet you keep coming back for more. No one is at fault other than you. The chefs will eventually bring out a new steak for you, but even that won't be perfect and you'll still find a way to complain about it.
    Games are never perfect! You have that moral obligation to stay with your teammates and do your best even when there are issues.
    Grow up, suck it up, and accept that this is the real world where things don't always go according to plan.
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    You have got to be kidding me; the moral obligation as you call it is to support my freedom of choice to stay or go since I put money into the game. Stability of perfomance is implied in the purchase. It's no different than a student at ****ing Berkley who paid tuition and wants the freedom of speech they are gaurenteed. You idiots would fit right in with ANTIFA, blaming me for expecting what I paid for. How ****ing DARE you blame me for wanting performance for what I PAID FOR?!? You are truly demented, you are not right, and I should not be prnalised for not wanting to hang where things don't work. Have you not considered the fact that once you join a session you can't simply cancel when you see all red? Get your heads out of you mob-mentality asses!
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    Originally Posted by verifun Go to original post
    You have got to be kidding me; the moral obligation as you call it is to support my freedom of choice to stay or go since I put money into the game. Stability of perfomance is implied in the purchase. It's no different than a student at ****ing Berkley who paid tuition and wants the freedom of speech they are gaurenteed. You idiots would fit right in with ANTIFA, blaming me for expecting what I paid for. How ****ing DARE you blame me for wanting performance for what I PAID FOR?!? You are truly demented, you are not right, and I should not be prnalised for not wanting to hang where things don't work. Have you not considered the fact that once you join a session you can't simply cancel when you see all red? Get your heads out of you mob-mentality asses!
    Maybe you should take a step back and assess yourself for a second... You're raging on a forum about your freedom of speech in regards to lag in an online video game...

    To address the only point you make: You can leave without penalty within the first 30 seconds of the game starting. You can see people's connection status on the lobby screen and on the score board. You have no reason to stick around if they're all red and you have plenty of time to see that they're all red.

    You got what you paid for. You paid for a game that uses peer to peer connections. You have the freedom of choice to leave any game you want, it just means you have to wait ten minutes before joining the next one. I mean, you also have the freedom of choice to kill people but you're going to have to deal with the punishment for that too. Freedom of choice is not a right.
    Also, everyone arguing with you put the same money into the game, maybe even more.

    Is it so hard to believe that maybe... Just maybe... You're wrong?
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    Originally Posted by verifun Go to original post
    You have got to be kidding me; the moral obligation as you call it is to support my freedom of choice to stay or go since I put money into the game. Stability of perfomance is implied in the purchase. It's no different than a student at ****ing Berkley who paid tuition and wants the freedom of speech they are gaurenteed. You idiots would fit right in with ANTIFA, blaming me for expecting what I paid for. How ****ing DARE you blame me for wanting performance for what I PAID FOR?!? You are truly demented, you are not right, and I should not be prnalised for not wanting to hang where things don't work. Have you not considered the fact that once you join a session you can't simply cancel when you see all red? Get your heads out of you mob-mentality asses!
    You are likening us to ANTIFA when you have done nothing but throw insults and froth at the mouth In anger while I am trying to have a civil discussion. You refuse to acknowledge anything other than your own view and shout it down our throats without been respectful. That's more like ANTIFA than anything else I've seen.

    Moral obligation is big. Your saying that you are better than 7 other people, and that it should matter if they suffer because you leave because only your feelings count. They also payed money for this game.

    This is the real world mate. Things don't always work. Get used to it, and maybe you'll actually learn and succeed somewhere. Not everything is handed to you on a silver platter.

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. You are clearly in the minority so why should we bow down to your every want?
    You need to get your head out of your self entitled, I'm better than everyone else backside.
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    Let's see here, you've got the first responder telling me I'm not meeting a 'moral obligation', and the second guy all out swearing at me as a response to a request to be able to leave a session when something I paid for doesn't perform as advertised. Yeah...so you saying that all I'm doing is hurling insults pretty much neglects the fact that I didn't start, but you want to make it out as my fault that because I expect to get what I paid for I'm wrong. What planet are you from?
    Also, what harm does it do you if I want to leave the middle of a session? None. So why the hell are you arguing as if forcing people to stay in a not fun session is going to improve gameplay? Also, why do you keep overlooking the fact that I paid for my copy as well?
    as far as the insults go, they are an appropriate response to your holier-than-thou attitude; why don't you use your own crap logic and 'just don't join a session' if it bothers you.
    **** every one of you idiots; the game is supposed to work, and originally came with the abillity to quit a garbage session if it wasn't working without penalty. It should still be that way.
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