Grab Reject needs to be more beneficial to the person who succeeds in doing so. | Forums

[Antonioj26]

I want people to think about what they do in the game and not just spam one move and hope that the other guy misses the counter on the seventh go. It gets even worse since getting countered gives the defender nothing. In a fighting game, or any action game for that matter, you want the different moves to do something. A counter that simply resets would not go far in a more classic fighting game like street figher or tekken. By adding a risk to the GB we would get rid of the GB-strings and the mindless GBs that some people just throw out and hope for the best.
But since you've engaged in the discussion and is obviously not satisfied with my suggestion, what is your own suggestion to end GB-strings?





To clarify, I play mostly the heavy classes. Against an aggressive GB-spammer, the light attacks are sometimes too slow to disrupt the GB. Granted, this is only really a problem with the classes that have extremely fast GBs, but the fact remains, sometimes you can only sit and CGB and hope that the other guy tries something else soon.

I play all the heavies too, they aren't too slow. Seriously, try this with a friend. The lights will beat the gb. Or tell me what characters lights are too slow and which characters gb is too fast to punish and I'll make a video.

[kweassa1]

I want people to think about what they do in the game and not just spam one move and hope that the other guy misses the counter on the seventh go. It gets even worse since getting countered gives the defender nothing. In a fighting game, or any action game for that matter, you want the different moves to do something. A counter that simply resets would not go far in a more classic fighting game like street figher or tekken. By adding a risk to the GB we would get rid of the GB-strings and the mindless GBs that some people just throw out and hope for the best.
But since you've engaged in the discussion and is obviously not satisfied with my suggestion, what is your own suggestion to end GB-strings?

As degrading as it may sound, "Git Gud".

Because this "GB-string" problem you speak of, is non-existant in the first place. It's something that does not exist, and therefore no reason to alter the game in anyway -- because it's not a problem with the game in the first place. It's the people falling for obvious GBs and still cannot CGB it.

Your "string of GBs" is simply countered with a "string of CGBs" because GB itself is within the range of countering it through reaction, as well as predictable in many cases. The only exception to this is (a) when somebody places a clever attack-feint-GB, which by itself is another level of skill problem, or (b) when someone uses GB through an unexpected and abnormal abuse or glitch, which is something that needs to be fixed.

To make it very clear, your "string of GBs" is only a problem at the very lowest level of players who struggle to CGB even the most blatant of "in-your-face" GBs. In average level gameplay GB is already considered to have very low success rate and only really able to land consistently when it's after a hvy parry.

The GB doesn't warrant a "counter", because on average the repetition of GB attempts, no matter how fast you try it, is already within range of countering it through reflex.

To clarify, I play mostly the heavy classes. Against an aggressive GB-spammer, the light attacks are sometimes too slow to disrupt the GB. Granted, this is only really a problem with the classes that have extremely fast GBs, but the fact remains, sometimes you can only sit and CGB and hope that the other guy tries something else soon.

All heavies have at the slowest a 36 frame light attack, which is plenty enough to stop a GB. If it's "sometimes too slow" -- it's not the class that's too slow.

It's you.

[ceaser64]

To clarify, I play mostly the heavy classes. Against an aggressive GB-spammer, the light attacks are sometimes too slow to disrupt the GB. Granted, this is only really a problem with the classes that have extremely fast GBs, but the fact remains, sometimes you can only sit and CGB and hope that the other guy tries something else soon.

No offense but your wrong. I use conq lights all the time to interrupt these grab games and their fast enough dam near 100% of the time for me.

[UbiNoty]

We don't want to promote button-mashing as a safe fallback mechanism either so I can bring this up as something for us to delve deeper into.