Here is why Quit Penalty will backfire | Forums

[Mia.Nora]

Speaking for what I have witnessed from the quiters in game, as well as when I quit myself, it goes like that;

Match starts, and people stay around even if enemy team has 2 centurions + some shinobi. After their pattern get clear whether they are a roam squad, or whether they actually play to objectives, people quit or stay.

If they see shinobi doing nothing but run around for offscreen GB, or onicharge 2.0, or if they see Centurions running away from any 1v1 like a plague.. Well people say "im not dealing with this ****" and quit.

But if enemy play to cap and hold objectives without shying away from 1v1s, even if they happen to have DLC chars, people dont mind and stay.

That means half of the games still get going without being effected from ragequit.


That being said, now there will be no opportunity to know whether they are cheapasses or actually want to play the game, so the moment I see 2 or more DLC on enemy team I just wont take the risk and quit at grace period, so will many others. So majority of games will crash at thefirst 30 seconds. Even if they survive the replacement guy will look that he is put in a lopsided game and quit, and eventually that game will crash.

So get prepared for back to back games crashing at first 30 seconds.

[CrunaCross]

So basically part of the solution would be to completely remove the 30 second free windows to leave.

[Mia.Nora]

So basically part of the solution would be to completely remove the 30 second free windows to leave.

Probably, but since game suffers from numerous issues created by game, they can not do that; as well as balance still beyond **** in 4v4.

So they can not remove grace period until they fix it, but the thing is they can not fix anything.. Meaning we are stuck with current version with grace period. And it will backfire real bad.

[Arekonator]

Real solution would be fixing their damn netcode so the lobby doesnt crash when someone DCs. In 2017 its unacceptable.

[Mia.Nora]

Real solution would be fixing their damn netcode so the lobby doesnt crash when someone DCs. In 2017 its unacceptable.

Yep pretty much this. Also without a ranked mode this game will only keep losing players until matchmaking gets really unbearable, which will cause losing more players.

And a ranked mode where game may crash for no reason at all, or crash because someone quit? That is completely unacceptable and it will drive remaining players away like shoveling out snow.


All in all, they really ****ed us up with this trash netcode that they have no idea how to fix...

[kweassa1]

That being said, now there will be no opportunity to know whether they are cheapasses or actually want to play the game, so the moment I see 2 or more DLC on enemy team I just wont take the risk and quit at grace period, so will many others. So majority of games will crash at thefirst 30 seconds. Even if they survive the replacement guy will look that he is put in a lopsided game and quit, and eventually that game will crash.

Translation

I only want to fight in teams that can get me wins. I don't give a rat's arse about teams with n00bs or incompetent players and I usually walk out on those losers. But if you enforce this penalty with only 30sec window, I don't have enough time to find out if they're losers or not.

So get prepared for back to back games crashing at first 30 seconds.

Translation

So I'm gonna start this doom prophecy again to get everyone riled up so they can roll back this stupid thing which stops me from playing like a total arse. It's my right to play only in games I win, and with teams that can win. So if I'm gonna be punished for that, I'm just gonna walk on any match that's got classes I don't like and cause mass player drops. If I threaten people like a thug enough times, I'm sure the devs will have no choice but to listen to me.




(ps) ...there could be some errors in the translation. My Whineresque is a bit rusty since the last time I seriously used that language, I was in my late teens ~ 20's ... decades ago, darn. But I'm sure the general context of the translation is accurate. It's not a very refined or thoughtful language in the first place.

[Mia.Nora]

******** spouted out.

nice attempt at putting words in my mouth, a really poor one but still nice.

I never cared about winning or losing; it is all about fun for me.
I can have fun in a game we lose, or completely hate a game I won. Fun has absolutely has nothing to do with the outcome of victory/loss. You clearly lack the maturity to understand the concept so lets skip that one, eh?

What I said is most people I encounter, and I, we stay in games regardless of how many centurions/shinobis there are as long as they do not play in a way where you never get to fight whole game. Some people end up doing that, only fighting in groups using offscreen CCs and stunlocking you till death. This is not fun, and even if we win that game I have no intention of going through that.

But some people turn out not to be asshats and actually dare fight you even when they dont outnumber you (amazing right). Even if they play centurion or shinobi it is ok, and people stay in game vs them.

[kweassa1]

nice attempt at putting words in my mouth, a really poor one but still nice.

I never cared about winning or losing; it is all about fun for me.
I can have fun in a game we lose, or completely hate a game I won. Fun has absolutely has nothing to do with the outcome of victory/loss. You clearly lack the maturity to understand the concept so lets skip that one, eh?

Translation

I dictate what's fun or not, and since I'm always right, the game and it's devs, and everyone else who doesn't agree with me are always wrong. If it's not fun for my own tastes, then it means the balance is off, the game's designed poorly, the devs are stupid, and everyone who doesn't agree are all corporate fanbois. No one in their right mind should disagree with my dictation of what should be 'fun'.

What I said is most people I encounter, and I, we stay in games regardless of how many centurions/shinobis there are as long as they do not play in a way where you never get to fight whole game. Some people end up doing that, only fighting in groups using offscreen CCs and stunlocking you till death. This is not fun, and even if we win that game I have no intention of going through that.

Translation

I will attempt the old trick called, "It's not about me.. but a friend told me...". This usually works on simple minded people, and since nobody is going to know that I'm actually talking about myself, people will think I'm totally objective, yeah. Again, I dictate what's fun or not, because only my opinion matters. People must be lying when they say they've got methods to avert certain situations or counter certain classes. They are also totally crazy losers when they say, "I just accept that I made a bad play and move on" -- only crazy losers do that. Since I can't get over stuff that kills me, it must be wrong and not fun. It's the absolute truth.

But some people turn out not to be asshats and actually dare fight you even when they dont outnumber you (amazing right). Even if they play centurion or shinobi it is ok, and people stay in game vs them.

Translation

Anyone that fights in a way smartly is something called an 'arsehat'. Only the people who fight like idiots so I can easily defeat are honorable and cool players. That's why 4v4 sucks in this game. Nobody plays it easily for me. They all gang up on me and don't respect my superiority. Especially those classes that grow stronger in team fights. So everything that makes people become stronger as a team should be banned. Anything that kills me is 'not fun' and 'broken' by default. Because I said so.

[Mia.Nora]

more bullsh*t

hahaha your funny. anyway welcome to ignore list

[Ezcendant]

Yeah ignore the troll, you're 100% correct. Some people would risk fighting a group of cents to see if they were cheesers or not, now they won't. Games crashing from leavers will be way up post penalty.