Kensei's light attacks are way too fast to block | Forums

[SoveriegnKing]

Well for starters he does 20 damage with his lights. Second, swift strike doesn't have i frames. Third, swift strike doesn't need a stamina nerf or any sort of nerf at all since this is a free gb for someone with grandma reactions, or a free heavy for someone with the slightest amount of skill. I love kenseis that spam swift strike, free top heavies all day.

I've never said I support the black out so don't make stuff up. Match making and balance is universally accepted as dogs hit so I'm not pointing out anything new, and even then I doubt you'll find a post that comes off as complainy/whiny. Rage quit penalty seems to have a pretty big divide in the community that's already shrinking so yes I have an opinion on that, sorry you don't like that. Yes I bash people after they've talked straight out of their butts the way you did in your initia post or when people down right lie. I usually try and give them a chance to correct their mistakes or just correct them myself but people get really butt hurt the way you did. People hate being told they are wrong.

/sigh... Ok let's try this then. 3 points bulletin.

1. Kensei light attack on a Combo+ chain does 25 damage. Factor in attack/defense values (PK has low defense value, assassin things you know) and presto! There is all the chance in the world a Kensei can get 30 damage on a PK using a side Light that is Combo+ stringed if he has a high attack value. Did you forget about combos or Combo+ strings and defense vs attack values? Don't assume all Kensei's are going to get a flat 20 damage off a side light. Just because you have a damage spreadsheet pulled up that only shows BASE values and not any attack/defense or Combo and Combo+ strings. That doesn't mean it can't happen. Don't "scratch the surface" of damage values and how they are calculated by pulling up a damage spreadsheet and think you know everything. That base values are the end-all-be-all. If thats the case then why the heck bother getting better gear with higher attack/defense values? Why the heck does the DAMAGE BUFF power up exist? Why does Kensei have Chilling Stare to lower attack/defense values? Crap ton of variables you're just tossing out the window.

2. Do you even know how i-frames work? You can't get a get a guard break, or hit him with an attack to intturpt DURING THE SWIFT STRIKE ANIMATION. You're "Free guardbreak" is free either because you A. Hit the guardbreak before the i-frames on the Swift Strike animation started up. B. Got the free guardbreak after BLOCKING the attack from Swift Strike. The animation itself is i-frames, as you can't hit them. Your attacks will just pass through them like they are a ghost. You also can't guardbreak during the animation for two reasons. 1. It's i-frames 2. This is the more basic reason, it's considered an attack. You can't guardbreak someone mid-attack, as well, their guard isn't up because they are attacking. It's the same properties as Orochi's Zypher Strike or any assassins side dodge attack.

3.

I'm not going to consciously participate in the black out but maybe I just won't play that day. It's been more difficult lately to just play through the frustrations of this game. I love the concept and I love it when it's actually working but when I'm getting disconnected 3-4 times in an hour it makes it more like a chore than a fun way to use my free time, so a lot of days I just don't even bother unless one of my buddies want to play.

I think the black out is pretty pointless but I guess we will see if it does anything. I understand being against it but this sort of "suck it up, at least they are trying" mentality is horse hit. I've never played a game that is plagued with this many issues but yet I still come back to it and I understand why others do too, but let's not sweep this crap under the rug. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying let's bash ubi every second of everyday but stop pretending peoples concerns aren't valid.

^ This post right here.
You're hiding behind a facade of nutrality to avoid being crucified. "Not going to consciously participate but maybe I just won't play that day." Then you say a nice thing about how you love the concept... then right into complaining about how it doesn't work and the disconnects. Then you go with the "I think it's pretty pointless" to once again, try to cover up your obvious frustrations with game as, well, "you don't play unless your buddies want to." If you hardly play then why do you give a crap? "I guess we'll see if anything happens." Please, hide behind your false nutrality, but its kind of obvious which side of the fence you're on, given you're obviously frustrated. "Stop pretending people's concerns aren't valid." Nobody says their concerns aren't valid, neither are yours but this is literally saying "I'm not happy with the attention I have gotten for my concerns, so I'm going to complain even louder and harder to get more."

Do you actually give a crap, or are you just trolling the forums to toss snide remarks like "Jesus, so much wrong in one post."? You have no idea the finer workings of the game. You're just using surface knowledge to talk out of your arse and pretend like you know what the heck your talking about. Though I don't have time to troll through the forums all day to check, almost all your post I've seen is negative. Complaints about connections, complaints about matchmaking imbalances, snide remarks on how this guy or that guy is wrong. I wasn't butt hurt, I was more annoyed then anything. You just flew in here, tossed down that snide remark, with absolutely no evidence or anything and left it at that. I detest children like you who think they know everything, toss crap like that in, just to see if they can get a reaction. "Try to give them a chance to correct themselves" so unbelievably egotistical and arrogant, as if you're 100% correct and you know it. So how about you stop talking out of your arse and learn some humility.

[Antonioj26]

/sigh... Ok let's try this then. 3 points bulletin.

1. Kensei light attack on a Combo+ chain does 25 damage. Factor in attack/defense values (PK has low defense value, assassin things you know) and presto! There is all the chance in the world a Kensei can get 30 damage on a PK using a side Light that is Combo+ stringed if he has a high attack value. Did you forget about combos or Combo+ strings and defense vs attack values? Don't assume all Kensei's are going to get a flat 20 damage off a side light. Just because you have a damage spreadsheet pulled up that only shows BASE values and not any attack/defense or Combo and Combo+ strings. That doesn't mean it can't happen. Don't "scratch the surface" of damage values and how they are calculated by pulling up a damage spreadsheet and think you know everything. That base values are the end-all-be-all. If thats the case then why the heck bother getting better gear with higher attack/defense values? Why the heck does the DAMAGE BUFF power up exist? Why does Kensei have Chilling Stare to lower attack/defense values? Crap ton of variables you're just tossing out the window.

2. Do you even know how i-frames work? You can't get a get a guard break, or hit him with an attack to intturpt DURING THE SWIFT STRIKE ANIMATION. You're "Free guardbreak" is free either because you A. Hit the guardbreak before the i-frames on the Swift Strike animation started up. B. Got the free guardbreak after BLOCKING the attack from Swift Strike. The animation itself is i-frames, as you can't hit them. Your attacks will just pass through them like they are a ghost. You also can't guardbreak during the animation for two reasons. 1. It's i-frames 2. This is the more basic reason, it's considered an attack. You can't guardbreak someone mid-attack, as well, their guard isn't up because they are attacking. It's the same properties as Orochi's Zypher Strike or any assassins side dodge attack.

3.


^ This post right here.
You're hiding behind a facade of nutrality to avoid being crucified. "Not going to consciously participate but maybe I just won't play that day." Then you say a nice thing about how you love the concept... then right into complaining about how it doesn't work and the disconnects. Then you go with the "I think it's pretty pointless" to once again, try to cover up your obvious frustrations with game as, well, "you don't play unless your buddies want to." If you hardly play then why do you give a crap? "I guess we'll see if anything happens." Please, hide behind your false nutrality, but its kind of obvious which side of the fence you're on, given you're obviously frustrated. "Stop pretending people's concerns aren't valid." Nobody says their concerns aren't valid, neither are yours but this is literally saying "I'm not happy with the attention I have gotten for my concerns, so I'm going to complain even louder and harder to get more."

Do you actually give a crap, or are you just trolling the forums to toss snide remarks like "Jesus, so much wrong in one post."? You have no idea the finer workings of the game. You're just using surface knowledge to talk out of your arse and pretend like you know what the heck your talking about. Though I don't have time to troll through the forums all day to check, almost all your post I've seen is negative. Complaints about connections, complaints about matchmaking imbalances, snide remarks on how this guy or that guy is wrong. I wasn't butt hurt, I was more annoyed then anything. You just flew in here, tossed down that snide remark, with absolutely no evidence or anything and left it at that. I detest children like you who think they know everything, toss crap like that in, just to see if they can get a reaction. "Try to give them a chance to correct themselves" so unbelievably egotistical and arrogant, as if you're 100% correct and you know it. So how about you stop talking out of your arse and learn some humility.

1. Sorry I didnt think anyone could get to the final hit of chain without getting blocked or parried by his slow lights. Its still not 30, we don't use gear stats when talking about numbers or else it would complicate things because then we could say that centurions infinite wall splat could one shot every character. I can give more examples of why we don't use those but I think you get the point.

2. I'll give you this one since I thought you meant uninterriuptable, but when I said free guard break I obviously meant blocking which is what everyone means when they say free guard break when talking about kenseis sweeping strike or even wardens zone.

3.Not hiding behind some facade, I don't really care what people think. I think my post laid out my opinions quite well, the game has its problems and I don't think a blackout would do anything. I might not play that day, but again it wouldn't be a conscious thing. I dont get how I can be covering up my frustarations when I'm straight up saying the game has tons of problems and becomes a chore but okay. Actually people are very much pretending peoples concerns aren't valid when they are making posts about how they dont have connectivity issues or to just "git gud" when people are getting stomped out by centurions in 4s. I care about this game because I love it and still have a ton of fun when its actually working or when im not getting into matches with just constant CC spam. Not sure if the "complain even louder" part was directed at me or if you were referring to the black out but either way I'm not complaining louder and I've already said the black out was pointless. I don't make that many posts on the matchmaking which again is universally accepted as terrible and I don't complain about the imbalances but I do point them out especially when people want to pretend like there arent clear problems with characters. I dont know everything but I know a lot about this game, I read about it when I'm not playing it or watching videos on it. I have a much better Idea about this game than most and Ive got most of the damage values and frame data memorized. When people drop bull crap like "kenseis lights do 30 dmg" that does damage to the community because some other person is going to read that and spout that same nonsense. Thats how you get something nerfed when it doesnt need to be and thats how you get lame buffs like the one kensei got. Sorry I've upset you so much for telling you you are wrong.

Oh and Its not uncommon for me to offer to help someone who is having trouble adapting to something in this game much like I did in my first post of this thread so you are way offbase when you say almost all my posts are negative.

[RoosterIlluzion]

Ok maybe I am the only one who has problem with this but I just can't block Kensei's light/side light attacks it's becoming so frustrating to the point where I just want to leave if there's a Kensei in the enemy team and it's on consoles so 30fpa doesn't help.
Just me?

Same here. Kensei's usually just light attack spam and I'm dead. I have a strange feeling that ubisoft slowed the Warden light overhead. It feels slower to me since the last update.