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Leave penalty is coming when the game reached its peak in terms of connectivity issues, spamming, ganking and abusing.
I still cant believe it. No problem with penalty for leave but not before the game is playable lol. And this 30 sec-at start are a joke. You don’t know after 30sec if you team is clueless, neither if the enemy is hard ganking or abusing since these are main leave indicators. After 2-3 min you should know it. Only useful if you join a match that has already started but not at the beginning. The quote that these 30sec window is to “check if everything is alright e.g matchmaking, no bots etc and then you agree to it” is ridiculous. That means you should rate/judge players by gear stat and rep. or what else could they mean referring to matchmaking then?
Right now a leave-penalty makes no sense and is really unfair since the main reasons why there are leaves still remain unfixed (connection, gank/spam, teamplay). I know that it was wished by most of the players but the timing is so bad that it has to be a big joke. Again, I have no problem with it in general if it is well developt and smart implemented.
Can you please stop the release of the current penalty system and choose the timing more wisely? Just “collect more data” until you implement it like you do it with Shinobi/Centurio. We know by now that it takes time to “collect data” so in that case it would not be that bad if you could collect more instead of still promoting season pass with broken heroes.
I love the game and I want to continue playing it but its no fun atm. We need a connection fix, new game modes and a little bit adjusting with Shinobi/Cent and we need it fast! 2.7k players at weekends lol.
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The leave penalty is actually right on target.
People quitting early have been identified, both by the dev team and by players, as a major contributor to the connectivity issues. For me personally 9 of 10 matches that I'm kicked from happens right after someone quits.
Look, the best thing we can do as a community to make the game better is to try different options. This penalty is coming, we won't stop it by writing about it on the forum. The best thing we can do is allow it to come, assess it for a few days and then evaluate whether it actually had any effect and what the next step should be. If this penalty actually has a positive effect we will be so freaking happy. If it doesn't do anything, at least we tried something.
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Sorry OP, these two guys are right. The penalty system is just fine as it is.
It was designed to prevent rage quitting. How people play, good or bad, doesn't matter. You're expected to stick with your team even if they're losing. If your team doesn't do anything right then type to them and give them tips in a friendly manner. Most people will welcome the direction and enjoy playing as part of a more strategic team.
On the other hand, if the enemy team is "hard ganking or abusing" then they're simply being strategic too. It's a valid strategy to gang up on people because it gets them out of the way and gives your team a numbers advantage. Sure, it might be infuriating but if you're in a situation like that then call for your team to group up then take on the ganking squad in a good ol' 4v4. Even if you don't kill them all you'll start to stagger their respawn times and it'll be more of a fight.
If by abusing you mean using glitches or bugs to win then just report them because they're basically cheating. Don't be too trigger happy on the report button though. There's nothing worse than a sore loser that reports everyone just because the game isn't going their way. :P
Anyway, I hope these tips help with your gameplay and how you deal with these kinds of players.
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How about there shouldn't be a Quit Penalty in the game period. Theres a reason I quit matches. And at this point in time I will come out and say it. Its not for the sake of leaving a match cause I raged quit. Its for the fact that the Matchmaking system is still flawed. Matching players who are well above the starting levels. With Higher level players. So quiting should be an option as I gurentee it most do it to find a player of there own skill and level. In hopes of getting a decent match.Originally Posted by oSquashxD Go to original post
Again Players have reasons to quit a match. And all views should be taken into account. Players should have the option to quit. It may not be there rage quiting for the sake of rage quiting. And for those of you who imply having a quit penalty. Then obviously your taking the game Far to seriously.How about No? People who Ragequit should get punished for "Leaving" That's fair use!
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On the contrary Azrakel, I think it's you who takes it too seriously. You always get matched with people of different skill levels. That's how competitive multiplayer games work. Plus, you shouldn't have your match options restricted because you play a lot. I mean, there can't be many people that have a rep 30 hero right? So if they were restricted to just people around their level then they'd almost never find a match.
People that want a quit penalty want it because they're sick of getting halfway through a game their team is losing then for their teammates leave pretty much assuring the loss. Its not that the person would care about losing so much, it's the fact that they're left totally outmatched by a team of real players vs a half team of bots and players. It takes the fun out the game because it's no longer competitive, you just lose.
Sure there might be times when someone leaves for other reasons but the majority of the time it's rage quitters and poor losers. So encouraging them to stay, or more discouraging them to leave, means that the other people on their team don't suffer. Also, you'd be surprised how many matches can be turned around in the second half. A lot of the people that quit just write the game off when they could actually end up winning.
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The timing could not be worse lol. Its getting worse every day in 4vs4 modes, especally dominion. From 10 games I can only play 2 now. It has nothing to do with connection. The way this game is played these days is just not fun and without any skill. Even the 1vs1 mode is almost unplayable.
If the game woudlnt crash when someone leaves I see no problem at all. I dont think there are so many "bad losers" out there. More like many, many frustrated players. They dont want to get 1. perma-ganked 2. always fighting alone and beeing ignored by teammates 3. playing in world "fair play" does not exist. So I think they just skip the match and try a new one, full of hope lol. If you think about how long it takes to find a match you are being punisehd with long waiting time, maybe more than 10min lol.
For myself, I only play vs AI atm bc there is no way I could enjoy the regular matches anymore. Its so boring bc some botsjust dodge 100% but on the other hand, they dont play like 90% of the players these days haha so its ok. You dont have to think "wtf rly?" all the time.
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If the people don't leave, and play out the game as they're obliged to, there wouldn't be a crash in the first place.Originally Posted by loneKnight335 Go to original post
How can you be blaming the connection when its designed to have no problems at all if people are behaving as they've been morally obliged to? Blaming the netcode while condoning ragequitting makes no sense at all.
Like it or not, when you press that "Matchmaking" button and enter the match, you're signing up for whatever situations that may happen be it good or bad, and you've got at least the basic moral obligation to try your best for the team, and then see the match through its end, and accept its results. Leaving because of whatever reasons that are not outside the game (such as emergencies or real life priorities) has no justification at all.
It's saying, "I only want to play the games I win" and I'm sorry to say, people who think like that don't deserve to play any kind of game with anyone else. They should be playing singleplayer.
NOBODY has the right to quit.
You may be able to lie in the public, but you can't lie to yourself when I implore you to think about how many times you've quit when the game was going one-sidedly in your favor. Maybe you didn't think it was fun, maybe you thought the matchmaking was bad, but you sure as hell didn't quit midway during a winning game to refuse the rewards/results because you thought it was unfair. And then, think about the times the game crashed on you because someone on the otherside was ragequitting on you, and how many honest rewards you were robbed of... as well as go through the frustrationg of having to matchmake again.
All the times you've had an easy-going, one-sided win, and were able to finish the match without ragequitters, is the time the guys on the other sided honored their obligation in spirit of goodwill and moral obligation despite humiliating losses. This is real "honor" in a competition, not some fantasy, made-up gankwhining excuses. Each and EVERY instance you've won was possible because every time, it could just as easily have been made null and void by someone leaving the game enraged -- but they didn't.
Quitting is not a "right". It's nothing but an offense the system had no way of punishing -- until now.
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My two cents....I agree with the rage quit penalty. Yes the servers should better and this,that or the other. But personally I'm sick of 'em. It's a computer game. I sometimes wonder what these people do when life gets hard and they can't quit out. AND technically you're "right to quit" is still there. No one will or can stop you. It's just that now there's incentive to think twice before you ruin 7 other players game, giving their "right to play" a fair go as well. Works both ways. Bit of a tip: Some matches you're just gunna lose.Accept defeat,Be ok with it,And try and learn something.Go to the best player/s and just see if you can block/parry/dodge as long as you can. And every now and then you'll pull off something amazing. And you'll feel better about yourself.
