You can't remove the stun from the Centurion's kit without buffing him in other ways | Forums

[CoyoteXStarrk]

I know people are gonna implode when they read the title, but its basic common sense. His kit is the opener to his knockdown combo and it is 100% reliant on his charged heavy.


His heavy attacks are so abysmally slow to charge up and get out that without the stun it would become one of the most easily parried moves in the game right up their with the Shugoki charged heavy.


For example whenever he uses the charged heavy attack he keeps the sword positioned while he charges in a way that is a dead giveaway of the direction its coming from. Even a half decent player can parry it or just avoid it with ease. The only reason it connects at all at this point is the fact that with the stun it makes it fairly hard to see where its coming from.


His entire kit is built around his reliance on the ability to stun people. Take that away and he is gonna be bottom tier garbage.



There are way better ways of balancing him out and I say all of this btw as a Beserker main.

[Mia.Nora]

Time and time again you have proven how clueless you are about the actual gameplay in other threads.

You did not even know his mixups, you thought all he could was either kick or lunge (your words, not mine). So I am wandering what changed since then??

Oh right, I remember; you quit the game.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Time and time again you have proven how clueless you are about the actual gameplay in other threads.

You did not even know his mixups, you thought all he could was either kick or lunge (your words, not mine). So I am wandering what changed since then??

Oh right, I remember; you quit the game.

and now you are proving how badly you wanna try and act like I am an idiot and try to "Gotcha" me.



I am not saying he doesn't have any other options in my OP. I am focusing on WHY the stuns are essential to his kit and how the stuns and the heavies that follow them are the most barebone essentials of his kit that is most commonly used. More advanced players will of course be able to use more complex combos and mix ups, but the casual Centurion mainly relies on the stuns and the heavies.


By cutting out his stuns like people are asking it leaves him barely having anything.



And yeah I quit because of the lack of team composition variety and if the 2 test matches I did last night its already getting more diverse so I am most likely going to be able to jump back in when the patch gets here with the leaver penalty.

[Mia.Nora]

and now you are proving how badly you wanna try and act like I am an idiot and try to "Gotcha" me.

I am not saying he doesn't have any other options in my OP. I am focusing on WHY the stuns are essential to his kit and how the stuns and the heavies that follow them are the most barebone essentials of his kit that is most commonly used. More advanced players will of course be able to use more complex combos and mix ups, but the casual Centurion mainly relies on the stuns and the heavies.

By cutting out hi stuns like people are asking it leaves him barely having anything.

That is not a problem with Centurion kit, it is a problem of (again quoting you) gitting gud.

If casuals suck at using the champion properly, it means they suck at using him. It does not make that champion not totally broken in the hands of someone who knows what to do with it.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

That is not a problem with Centurion kit, it is a problem of (again quoting you) gitting gud.

If casuals suck at using the champion properly, it means they suck at using him. It does not make that champion not totally broken in the hands of someone who knows what to do with it.

Yeah but since casuals make up the majority of the playerbase they balance the game based mostly on Casual data.


They do need to "Git Guud", but there are some things in the game that are basically only avoided by players with high skill caps.

[The_B0G_]

I thought it was balanced mostly over the top 7% if the player base.

[Mia.Nora]

I thought it was balanced mostly over the top 7% if the player base.

It IS. Coyote just trying to grasp straws.

[darkspawn2101]

Yeah but since casuals make up the majority of the playerbase they balance the game based mostly on Casual data.


They do need to "Git Guud", but there are some things in the game that are basically only avoided by players with high skill caps.

This is precisely why I'm not inclined to take anything you have on balance seriously.

You've 'quit' yet chastise others for quitting. Your more concerned with lawding things over people than being constructive.

At the end of the day Cent was designed badly. Needs reworked from the ground up, same with Shinobi.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

This is precisely why I'm not inclined to take anything you have on balance seriously.

You've 'quit' yet chastise others for quitting. Your more concerned with lawding things over people than being constructive.

At the end of the day Cent was designed badly. Needs reworked from the ground up, same with Shinobi.

1) The fact that I did it in the past and now I have changed the way I view it now does not make my opinion on the matter any less valid. In fact in my opinion that fact I am showing that I am willing to change my opinion on a subject shows that at the very least I am willing to listen unlike alot of people on here.


2) I would not be against a rework, but I really think that on their own they are mostly fine. The Shinobi in 1v1 is high tier obviously, but in 1v1 the Centurion is thoroughly mid tier. He is easily outplayed by anybody with a dodge attack. I would just hope that by admitting they need a rework Ubisoft would also admit that other OG heroes are in desperate need of help (The Conqueror especially)

[darkspawn2101]

1) The fact that I did it in the past and now I have changed the way I view it now does not make my opinion on the matter any less valid. In fact in my opinion that fact I am showing that I am willing to change my opinion on a subject shows that at the very least I am willing to listen unlike alot of people on here.


2) I would not be against a rework, but I really think that on their own they are mostly fine. The Shinobi in 1v1 is high tier obviously, but in 1v1 the Centurion is thoroughly mid tier. He is easily outplayed by anybody with a dodge attack. I would just hope that by admitting they need a rework Ubisoft would also admit that other OG heroes are in desperate need of help (The Conqueror especially)

I forsee cent having the same problem -as- Conq.

A good conq is basicly one of the most terrifying things in the game. But sevearly limited. I forsee cent being the same thing. I think his skillset totally needs reworked, Because if he's going to be completely based on unblockables, he has the potentially to be really really good, or really really bad.

Either he retains his unpredictability or his unblockables are nerfed to buggery and we see the hero go to the bottom of the barrel.

Same as Conq, it's either god or timmy the ten year old behind the wheel and there's very little middleground.

...As for the attitude, I'll withhold judgement. I stand by my former assessment, but, y'know. People change.