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    Fixes for shinobi

    Shinobi has two problems i think are unintended

    First: Heavy attacks don't trigger execution. It was said in other threath but maybe a lost an answer among all forum threat. A lot of times ranged heavy attack is fired while you are at close range. It causes a few problems, one of them, don't trigger executions on kill

    Second: Rain of sickle need to cancel out similar to PK stabbing. It's a very slow combo and you can cancel once you start it, with the problems it means. It needs, at least, to be cancelable. Shinobi has too little health that can't afford so long uninterrumpible chain
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    Fixes for Shinobi?

    Ok
    First: When you rangedattack on close range, you press the Heavybutton to long. You have to klick i once, like a light attack. When your shinobi does a Rangedattack on closecombat you pressed the button to long

    Second: You can cancel the sickle rain, by backflipp. After the initial heavy, you can backflip, or just after every lighthit from sickle rain you can backflipp. You only have to press a and voila you backflipp

    Things that need to fixed on shinobi?

    1. After a countered ranged gb or a ranged parry you dropp phrone to the feets of your enemy.
    When the enemy punish you with a heavy or a light attack, you can, after you stand up gb him for free, the enemy cant tech this gb, this needs to be fixed.
    Only classes that have double light attacks like the orochi double Top light can protect you from this free gb.
    All classes without such an attack gets free gbed after the standup from shinobi.

    2. Sickle rain Combo.
    Realy nice combo, but when you pop revenge, and he hits you with the second heavy he dont get autoparried and you sit in revenge on your knees and eat his three light combo.
    But i think its a revenge bug, cause many people pop revenge and none off the enemys get autoparried.
    When shinobi has you in sickle rain combo every other enemy can spam heavy on you in the time where he hits you with his three lights.
    The same as on shugokis demon embrace.

    3. After a sucksefful kick your ranged attack gets blocked, most times the top attack, its not guaranteed.

    4. After a sucksefull ranged gb your heavy to intial the sickle rain combo gets blocked, or you get hit by a light attack when the enemy get onto his knees and your combo dont starts.

    5. after your forwardroll, when your follow up kick gets avoided the enemy cant punish you, when you automatically press heavy attack or better light attack. The recovery frames are to short
    I dont want a free gb after this, cause thats a to hard punish for him, but a confirmed light.

    6. Deflect,
    after a deflect you get hit by enemys or teammembers while the animation starts.
    But the problem is you dont teleport behind your deflectet target and stay in front of him and you eat the next hit.
    that makes the deflect especially in Teammodes useless. Its a nice tool and i like it but you cant count on it.
    Some invincibility frames till the animation?

    after a deflect with a followup kick and after that a ranged gb, the gb dont connect the target.
    He dont tech it, cause when he tech it i lay phrone to his feets. When the enemy dont tech this gb its possible that the ranged gb dont connect.
    i like this deflect, cause its a high risk-high reward tool.

    7. The light after a heavy or the light after a light attack get blocket, most times the top.

    That are things that i noticed while playing the shinobi.
    I hope you understand what ive typed, because my native language inst english
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    Originally Posted by Weird_Eagle Go to original post
    Fixes for Shinobi?

    Ok
    First: When you rangedattack on close range, you press the Heavybutton to long. You have to klick i once, like a light attack. When your shinobi does a Rangedattack on closecombat you pressed the button to long

    Second: You can cancel the sickle rain, by backflipp. After the initial heavy, you can backflip, or just after every lighthit from sickle rain you can backflipp. You only have to press a and voila you backflipp

    Things that need to fixed on shinobi?

    1. After a countered ranged gb or a ranged parry you dropp phrone to the feets of your enemy.
    When the enemy punish you with a heavy or a light attack, you can, after you stand up gb him for free, the enemy cant tech this gb, this needs to be fixed.
    Only classes that have double light attacks like the orochi double Top light can protect you from this free gb.
    All classes without such an attack gets free gbed after the standup from shinobi.

    2. Sickle rain Combo.
    Realy nice combo, but when you pop revenge, and he hits you with the second heavy he dont get autoparried and you sit in revenge on your knees and eat his three light combo.
    But i think its a revenge bug, cause many people pop revenge and none off the enemys get autoparried.
    When shinobi has you in sickle rain combo every other enemy can spam heavy on you in the time where he hits you with his three lights.
    The same as on shugokis demon embrace.

    3. After a sucksefful kick your ranged attack gets blocked, most times the top attack, its not guaranteed.

    4. After a sucksefull ranged gb your heavy to intial the sickle rain combo gets blocked, or you get hit by a light attack when the enemy get onto his knees and your combo dont starts.

    5. after your forwardroll, when your follow up kick gets avoided the enemy cant punish you, when you automatically press heavy attack or better light attack. The recovery frames are to short
    I dont want a free gb after this, cause thats a to hard punish for him, but a confirmed light.

    6. Deflect,
    after a deflect you get hit by enemys or teammembers while the animation starts.
    But the problem is you dont teleport behind your deflectet target and stay in front of him and you eat the next hit.
    that makes the deflect especially in Teammodes useless. Its a nice tool and i like it but you cant count on it.
    Some invincibility frames till the animation?

    after a deflect with a followup kick and after that a ranged gb, the gb dont connect the target.
    He dont tech it, cause when he tech it i lay phrone to his feets. When the enemy dont tech this gb its possible that the ranged gb dont connect.
    i like this deflect, cause its a high risk-high reward tool.

    7. The light after a heavy or the light after a light attack get blocket, most times the top.

    That are things that i noticed while playing the shinobi.
    I hope you understand what ive typed, because my native language inst english
    Very good, but i don't disengage from rain of sickle for more i use dodge, and my ranged attacks triggers with just a tap on mouse, so i think it's again, my s*** IPS.

    Revenge bug should be tested with PK stabs, too, but I think is common issue because it don't stop CC.
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    Originally Posted by CaynAldan Go to original post
    Revenge bug should be tested with PK stabs, too, but I think is common issue because it don't stop CC.
    Yes it dont stop the cctrain, thats right. when im right it doesent it at any time, but the autoparry isnt working
    somtimes you autoparry, somtimes not, but this happens on all classes i play.
    On Orochi, Shinobi and Nobushi the same issue, autoparry didnt work somtimes
    btw its not my internetconnection, cause i see this happen on stream from iskys, kingrichard kinseymister and manny more.
    i think its a bug
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    If you're surrounded, here's a hint. DONT....DO...IT.
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    Originally Posted by Rahnzan Go to original post
    If you're surrounded, here's a hint. DONT....DO...IT.
    It's easy when you are surrounded. The problem is when comes someone running at you and you are stuck at the animation

    Shinobi keeps doing range attack at close. I only click once, but every time enemy it's just out of close attack, it do range one. I often loss by this, whiloe trying to feint, for example.
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