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  1. #11
    With character talent bonus (increased damage if multiple targets are hit), tactician bonus, talented bonus, EAD bonus (from AR), damage to Elite bonus... you can reach 2 Million damages, whereas the un-buffed sticky deal around 800k. I've experienced it myslef.
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  2. #12
    Originally Posted by sandpants Go to original post
    2 million on the stat screen? Or after armor/elite bonuses?

    Practical application. The only numbers that matter.

    I believe it's 1.8 million in the stats. But that makes no difference. An M44 is nothing of the sort.

    This is just a 30 stack. No talents active at all.
    The radius could be cut down quite a bit and it would still hit multiple targets.
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  3. #13
    @mckrackin5324 you only used death by proxy, 30 tac stack, and an AR ? Which AR was it ?
    I'm curious if "uncomplicated" could buff stickies.
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    Practical application. The only numbers that matter.

    I believe it's 1.8 million in the stats. But that makes no difference. An M44 is nothing of the sort.

    This is just a 30 stack. No talents active at all.
    The radius could be cut down quite a bit and it would still hit multiple targets.

    The reason I asked whether it's after elite/armor bonuses is because a lot of this wouldn't apply in PvP.
    You can see in your video that your Sticky hits the Vet for only 1.3mill after chain reaction.
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    Originally Posted by sandpants Go to original post
    The reason I asked whether it's after elite/armor bonuses is because a lot of this wouldn't apply in PvP.
    You can see in your video that your Sticky hits the Vet for only 1.3mill after chain reaction.
    It hit them both for the maximum amount of damage their class can take. And like I said,it's 1.8 million without EAD and DTE. In no way comparable to an M44 bullet.

    Originally Posted by MonsterOfMyOwn Go to original post
    @mckrackin5324 you only used death by proxy, 30 tac stack, and an AR ? Which AR was it ?
    I'm curious if "uncomplicated" could buff stickies.
    @MonsterOfMyOwn...Do you see the Showstopper hanging on my pack? I don't use Death by Proxy.
    I believe what procced on that shot was Chain Reaction,Tech Support and Demo Expert.

    You do have me curious about Uncomplicated though. I doubt it but I will test it
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  6. #16
    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    It hit them both for the maximum amount of damage their class can take. And like I said,it's 1.8 million without EAD and DTE. In no way comparable to an M44 bullet.



    @MonsterOfMyOwn...Do you see the Showstopper hanging on my pack? I don't use Death by Proxy.
    I believe what procced on that shot was Chain Reaction,Tech Support and Demo Expert.

    You do have me curious about Uncomplicated though. I doubt it but I will test it
    Yah guys let me know about that bullfrog talent. It's actually why I'm looking for one that's electronic talent rolled
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  7. #17
    Originally Posted by Paulbolt316 Go to original post
    Yah guys let me know about that bullfrog talent. It's actually why I'm looking for one that's electronic talent rolled
    From a quick look it doesn't.
    My seekers hit 103,400 with the LVOA-C and 84,000 with the Bullfrog.

    The LVOA-C has Destructive and Ferocious active though and the math is getting away from me.
    Let me find a weapon with no active talents to compare to the FAMAS and I'll try again.
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  8. #18
    It actually looks like Uncomplicated does work with skills but it still hits very low without Destructive and Ferocious.
    If I had a 204 FAMAS...OMFnG...lol

    EDIT...nevermind. Bad test. I used a shotgun as the test gun and it has no native EAD and FAMAS does.
    I'm back to thinking Uncomplicated doesn't work with skills

    EDIT EDIT...Exactly right.
    Seekers hit 70K with shotgun and 84K with FAMAS.
    FAMAS has 20% EAD
    20% of 70K is 14K=84K

    Uncomplicated does not work with skills
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  9. #19
    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    It actually looks like Uncomplicated does work with skills but it still hits very low without Destructive and Ferocious.
    If I had a 204 FAMAS...OMFnG...lol

    EDIT...nevermind. Bad test. I used a shotgun as the test gun and it has no native EAD and FAMAS does.
    I'm back to thinking Uncomplicated doesn't work with skills

    EDIT EDIT...Exactly right.
    Seekers hit 70K with shotgun and 84K with FAMAS.
    FAMAS has 20% EAD
    20% of 70K is 14K=84K

    Uncomplicated does not work with skills
    Damn....Well thank you for checking though. At least I know I don't need to hunt for one now.

    Oh, Mckrackin, I got another mdr and skull gloves today. Although the skulls were rolled like garbage.
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  10. #20
    Originally Posted by Paulbolt316 Go to original post

    Oh, Mckrackin, I got another mdr and skull gloves today. Although the skulls were rolled like garbage.
    You suck. lol

    I have a bunch of nearly perfect Skulls though. At least there's that.

    I also just picked up a Relentless backpack with 1271 electronics and 13,400 skill power. My Tactician is nearly immortal now. lol
    One skill kill is over a full bar of health returned.
    Now I'm thinking about a Vigorous vest but hate to lose the 10% from Barrett's.
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