The Centurion is OP. It just is. | Forums

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Speaking as someone who has spent my entire day off today playing as a Centurian and against Centurians for the past week I can safely say he is thoroughly mid tier. He is a one trick pony. The one trick is a GOOD trick, but its the only trick he has.


- He is amazing only under very specific conditions. In a 2 v Him situation he gets trounced, because he can never get his combo off.

- His light attacks do basically nothing.

- His stuns are pretty much the only thing he has that can be called "OP" and even then I wouldn't call it that.

- His kick is telegraphed and easily dodged.

- His guard stance change is painfully slow

- His charged heavy is also ridiculously telegraphed

- Low health pool compared to the OG heroes

- If he misses a step in his combo or if it gets interrupted he is easily punished



Also not balance related but jesus christ he has hands down the WORST selection of ornaments in the game. Even worse than Nobushi, because at least Nobushi has more than 2 serviceable ornaments and his ONLY good ones are locked behind Mythic and Elite outfits.

[FledgeSRondo]

Centurion has a large moveset with lots of options and mixups (Warden's moveset looks basic comparatively, it's literally less than half the size of the Centurion's), powerful combo's (the knockdown combo that takes half of your life is ridiculous), multiple unblockables that can be used in and out of chains and feints, remarkably fast heavy attacks, non-AOE team defense boosting feats that transcend distance, and incredible stamina draining ability (that the knockdown combo that takes out half your life also leaves you with no stamina when you get up is even worse than ridiculous, it's simply broken).

In a focused 1v1 he's somewhat manageable because he does have weaknesses, but if you're getting ganked and one of the enemies is a Centurion, well, Revenge is basically useless. If he's hovering on your side, switching your guard stance to block/parry incoming attacks or counter-guardbreak is to no avail, as he can simply spam his knockdowns or charge his unblockables (which he can feint to bait out a parry, opening you up to accidentally throw out a heavy to become vulnerable for a severe beatdown as well). If you're instead locked on him he just has to wait for someone else to guardbreak or hit you so he can throw out a knockdown, allowing everyone to wail on you. In other words, you're effectively vulnerable or disabled no matter what you do, making all the gains from Revenge essentially useless. The Shug Hug is comparatively far more generous as it's slow, telegraphed and comes at a great risk to the Shugoki, but the Centurion can just bulldoze over players without consequence.

Where previously I could dominate the scoreboard with 1000+ scores, now almost every Dominion match Centurions top the scoreboard (especially if there's more than one). One of my Centurion teammates couldn't understand why my Rep. 30 GS 144 Warden only made half the score of his low GS Rep 2 Centurion, and I've seen Centurion players with no Rep or GS consistently top the boards as well. It's only been a week and I'm already seeing Rep 5+ Centurions, at this rate they'll be Rep 30 in just over a month. It's absolutely ridiculous.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

One of my Centurion teammates couldn't understand why my Rep. 30 GS 144 Warden only made half the score of his low GS Rep 2 Centurion, and I've seen Centurion players with no Rep or GS top the boards as well. It's only been a week and I'm already seeing Rep 5+ Centurions, at this rate they'll be Rep 30 in just over a month. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Its almost as if gearscore and rep scale means nothing at all


(It doesn't and it shouldn't)

[FledgeSRondo]

Its almost as if gearscore and rep scale means nothing at all


(It doesn't and it shouldn't)

You say that as though it means my teammate was more skilled and experienced? With a Centurion that's only been out a week. In that specific match I made 2nd on the scoreboard with a 600+ score. The reason the Centurion did so well was because he ran around pairing with any teammate he could fight enemies with, racking up takedowns/executions basically by ganking enemies with spammable unblockables and knockdowns.

If you genuinely think all these Centurions suddenly bulldozing to the top of the scoreboards and thus leveling up so quickly are just disproportionately skilled compared to everyone else, you're being intellectually dishonest. As I explained in my earlier post their specific mechanics and toolkit make them very powerful when they outnumber players, they are basically gank tanks.

[Knight_Raime]

me thinks you need to play more than a day against him before making incredibly false claims about him.
I've had the guy for a week. you can dodge anything he throws at you 90% of the time. The only 2 times that's not possible is if he's splatted you on a surface or has nailed you with a fully charged heavy. He has the ability to have a fair bit of range by fully charging his heavies. but that just makes it easier to see coming. so easier to parry.

Dodge attacks are really strong against an offensive centurion.

[Ulnias]

All of his attacks seem to be chainable variations of knockdowns, unblockables, stuns and that god awful health destroying ground stab.

One chains into the other and even though you know exactly what's coming, you're powerless to stop it. You cannot dodge and you cannot block 90% of the time, he's like a heatseeking missile.

It needs to be toned down just a touch. Maybe taking the unblockable or some of his knockdowns away so it's more difficult to get the ground stab; that's what kills me most of the time and it's every single game that it happens in. Or even just toning down the effect of the punch so you can even remotely see what's going on.

Also that team shielding is BS. Not only is he OP himself, but it's then like trying to face 8 enemies as they all have double health.

It'd be fine if there was some way to counter his huge chain attacks, but you know once he starts it that that's it for you, no hope of getting out.

everything is dodgeable blah blah blah. it really is I should know. my rep 4 cent still gets his *** handed to him on a regular basis. jsut as much if a little less than I dish out. but then i spent time practiing with him before using in game.i get away from plenty of cents by not focusing on him and dodge rolling away

[BeefMan_]

me thinks you need to play more than a day against him before making incredibly false claims about him.
I've had the guy for a week. you can dodge anything he throws at you 90% of the time. The only 2 times that's not possible is if he's splatted you on a surface or has nailed you with a fully charged heavy. He has the ability to have a fair bit of range by fully charging his heavies. but that just makes it easier to see coming. so easier to parry.

Dodge attacks are really strong against an offensive centurion.

Too bad the only """"good"""" centurions will do nothing but turtle because their class gets the best parry/whiff punishes in the game.

[Shizzle117]

1 confirm from the cent is like 65% life on most assassins... its pretty out of control i agree

[Sincerity117]

Speaking as someone who has spent my entire day off today playing as a Centurian and against Centurians for the past week I can safely say he is thoroughly mid tier. He is a one trick pony. The one trick is a GOOD trick, but its the only trick he has.


- He is amazing only under very specific conditions. In a 2 v Him situation he gets trounced, because he can never get his combo off.

- His light attacks do basically nothing.

- His stuns are pretty much the only thing he has that can be called "OP" and even then I wouldn't call it that.

- His kick is telegraphed and easily dodged.

- His guard stance change is painfully slow

- His charged heavy is also ridiculously telegraphed

- Low health pool compared to the OG heroes

- If he misses a step in his combo or if it gets interrupted he is easily punished



Also not balance related but jesus christ he has hands down the WORST selection of ornaments in the game. Even worse than Nobushi, because at least Nobushi has more than 2 serviceable ornaments and his ONLY good ones are locked behind Mythic and Elite outfits.

So yea the centurion is basically Rhonda Rousey

[CoyoteXStarrk]

So yea the centurion is basically Rhonda Rousey

Exactly.


And just like her he burst onto the scene like a madman and everyone lost their mind and just like her once he gets figured out he will be Mid tier.