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[A-A_Ron]

Whose idea was this character? You can't dodge or interrupt the kick which means it's guaranteed double light. Then instead of fixing PK's light spam, they added a character that is faster and deals more damage. They are completely unbeatable on console and from watching PC players they are nearly impossible on PC too. If the kick is intended to be undodgeable they make it interuptable or if it's meant to be Uninterruptible make it dodgable. As for light spam, make the first light slower if the second is guaranteed. These should have been fixed pre-launch or day one.

[SenBotsu893]

well obvous salty post but allow me to be the voice of reason.

you are quite wrong about ... well pretty much all your points.

dodging: i gues you simple mess up the timing. trust me the shinobi kick can be dodged.
as a matter of fact its even more telegraphed and punishable as warlord headbuts, centurion kicks etc.
because it takes obvously more time for shinobi to do 2 dodge imputs instead of just 1 like the other Heros.
Furthermore its very obvous when a big smoke puff appears. That is such a big visual Indicator. Its even easier to just simple GB him before the kick can start.

Also if the kick hits you it guarantees a ranged heavy. if someone hits you with the light combo he obvoiusly misses out on damage.

Comparing to PK: if you check the damage values you will notice that his damage is below that of PK
Shinobi r1 combo is 14/8(unblockable combo) or 14/14(blockable combo)
PK r1 combo is 17/15
Sidenote: lol and PK has even 30 more HP than Shinobi so why does he do less damge?

Completly unbeatable on consoles: lol no. i can beat them even with a freaking Kensei. simply because they die in 2-3 hits.
Best part is if they use any Ranged attack you get a free hit on them when you throw them to the ground.

[PanzerShrekonin]

well obvous salty post but allow me to be the voice of reason.

you are quite wrong about ... well pretty much all your points.

dodging: i gues you simple mess up the timing. trust me the shinobi kick can be dodged.
as a matter of fact its even more telegraphed and punishable as warlord headbuts, centurion kicks etc.
because it takes obvously more time for shinobi to do 2 dodge imputs instead of just 1 like the other Heros.
Furthermore its very obvous when a big smoke puff appears. That is such a big visual Indicator. Its even easier to just simple GB him before the kick can start.

Also if the kick hits you it guarantees a ranged heavy. if someone hits you with the light combo he obvoiusly misses out on damage.

Comparing to PK: if you check the damage values you will notice that his damage is below that of PK
Shinobi r1 combo is 14/8(unblockable combo) or 14/14(blockable combo)
PK r1 combo is 17/15
Sidenote: lol and PK has even 30 more HP than Shinobi so why does he do less damge?

Completly unbeatable on consoles: lol no. i can beat them even with a freaking Kensei. simply because they die in 2-3 hits.
Best part is if they use any Ranged attack you get a free hit on them when you throw them to the ground.

I think you are fighting really bad ShiNOOBi's then o.O

ShiNOOBi can't be punished by alot of the characters. Light spam ShiNOOBi's are also showing themselves.

Lawbringer can odge but can't GB. Only gets a free light. :/

[Charmzzz]

I am wrecking Shinobi's mostly, met only one who was able to beat me in the last week. But that was before I knew all his moves.

1. Shinobi has suuuper low reflex blocks - means he has to time his blocks almost like other characters need to time their parries!
2. His Kick is so obvious, I can dodge-punish it with a 70-80% accuracy (playing PK on PC)
3. This game is Rock-Paper-Scissors. Not every matchup has to be equal, some matchups favor a class over another, then comes skill into play
4. Catch him ONCE and he is at half hp or even lower
5. Calling for a PK Light nerf AGAIN? Seriously? They already nerfed the Light-spam with a pretty large recovery time if you don't go for the full combo. If you fall for Light-spam PK's you are doing something wrong, sorry bro.

[Draghmar]

2. His Kick is so obvious, I can dodge-punish it with a 70-80% accuracy (playing PK on PC)
3. This game is Rock-Paper-Scissors. Not every matchup has to be equal, some matchups favor a class over another, then comes skill into play

Ad 2. It's a little harder with class like Nobushi. I have to learn more fighting against it tough. At least I hear now that hidden stance can block kick.
Ad 3. No it's not. I mean I know that there are differences between classes but your statement (Rock-Paper-Scissors one) suggest that there are classes that are much better then others. And that's not true...or at least it shouldn't be true because it would mean that there is some balance issue.