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  1. #11
    I read some patch notes, I have not an never will watch streams because I'm not that hardcore into this game, and I don't follow it religiously. It's a game. I play it for fun, I don't worry too much about it's future.

    And I love games don't get me wrong, but a lot of players don't take them as seriously as you do. I used to, but there's less time for that now. And truthfully, it bothers me that they didn't put such a high hero cost right in the news section of the game a few weeks ago. It's the news section, and the heroes are the most expensive items in the entire game in currency they are pushing people to spend real money on. That's not really free.

    I don't expect them to do everything for me, I do expect them to tell me when they broadcast free heroes for all players on the main screen but create an absolutely massive barrier to non-season pass holders.

    And that sucks. I knew I'd be grinding, but I thought I'd be grinding for cool gear and levels with new characters, not spending a good month just unlocking them or paying real money to skip the line. Plus, thanks to timed bounties. I can't even grind steel in a timely fashion. I literally have to pay to play right now, or forget about these heroes for the foreseeable future.

    No matter how you look at it, this game has a paywall. A huge one.
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  2. #12

    Paywall....seriously?Seem you don't know what it is.
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  3. #13
    Here the thing though, you saying that 15k is too much means that season pass worth something after all, not to mention, they have said it will be 15k each for like weeks now.

    So what season pass gives you is way to save up steel, and spend it on cosmetics, instead of heroes. It would actually really be not worth it if heroes were 5k each.
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  4. #14
    Originally Posted by N3ver_M0re Go to original post
    Here the thing though, you saying that 15k is too much means that season pass worth something after all, not to mention, they have said it will be 15k each for like weeks now.

    So what season pass gives you is way to save up steel, and spend it on cosmetics, instead of heroes. It would actually really be not worth it if heroes were 5k each.
    If they have been saying that, they certainly did not on the news page of the actual game at any time in the past month. And that's not at all how the season pass was marketed - one week exclusive. Never once did they say one week exclusive if you have done 30 days of dailies and spent it on nothing else... It's good the season pass suddenly has value, but it sucks that they never explained their paywall plans when I could have bought the package version with the season pass for $20 less than it is separately. Might have bought it at that price had they been clear. Won't buy it for twice that price today to play free dlc. I mean Christ, that's one of the most expensive season passes on the entire market.

    I also picked up the digital deluxe version BECAUSE the season pass seemed to be fairly uninteresting. Now they want $130 instead of $110?... That's brutal. And I picked that up in an effort to support the game, there wasn't a lot of extras, but I enjoyed the alpha and chose to. Putting up some cash for good content isn't an issue, but suddenly discovering it's my only option or I start a month behind everyone else?

    Originally Posted by Krell80 Go to original post
    Paywall....seriously?Seem you don't know what it is.
    Well, it's free to us, if we have 30 dailies worth of grinding and steel set aside. which many of us do not because everything in this game costs an arm and a leg down to the most basic cosmetic items. So that's not an option. I can either now grind 30K over the course of the next month or so before I ever get to try the two heroes (slowed down of course by mobile game style timed bounties, which are the only way to make decent steel) OR I can spend $50 of actual money to play now that the week exclusive is done. And of course I'm not allowed to upgrade my version, I have to buy the pass separately.

    I don't know man, sure as hell seems like a paywall to me. Actual money is literally the only way I get to use the free dlc. Seems backwards to me.
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  5. #15
    Funny thing was.... I even dont know about Shinobi and Centurion can be bought with steel 1 week after the start of season 2. I thought we have to buy season pass to unlock both heroes. So I buy the season pass around 40$ converted from my local currency, Which is almost the same price when I bought this game's deluxe edtiion (around 60$ converted from local currency). It only include 2 heroes 5 crates and champion status... not worthed enough I think, better grinding until we broke the joystick... LOL...It can worth more if they include exclusive gear for season pass buyer, like the deluxe edition package where we can get exclusive ornament and some cosmetics.
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  6. #16
    Originally Posted by nufrancis Go to original post
    It only include 2 heroes 5 crates and champion status... not worthed enough I think
    It's 6 heroes,not 2.
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  7. #17
    You should be grateful. I honestly think only season pass holders should get the Hero's I mean what do we even get for buying the season pass ? 1 week early access to the Hero's ? That's about it. You should have to buy the season pass to get access
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  8. #18
    i remember it being very specific. you buy the season pass to get the coming new characters 1 week in advance - with that i assumed they will also be unlocked For you - since normally you have to spend steel to unlock the characters beyond the most standard ones.
    you also get the "ribbon" thingy that increases the rate at which you gain ingame resources and exp. and also some lockboxes.
    reading this i immediately knew i would Not need the season pass, because i would spend enough time playing the game to unlock the new characters just fine.

    a few weeks ago when i heard new chars were coming; i did not bother to read up on how much steel the new characters would cost - because knowing that there is nearly nothing in the game to spend your steel on - i thought i would easily be able to get enough. when the patch hit i had 29k steel just laying around. i haven't bought a single lockbox with steel, because they're useless before prestige3. and after prestige3 i can just open some of the many lockboxes you get from events and the singleplayer campaign. i never felt it was necessary to spend any steal at all. i mostly just bought ribbons so i would lvl up the characters a bit faster, and occasionally some execution animations.

    i think the developers even addressed this on a stream before, that there are a LOT of players with a ton of steel banked up
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  9. #19
    To be fair, you can still play as the heroes, right? It just means you don't level up and get gear. So, it's not like you're being denied the chance to play them until you save up ridiculous amounts, you just have to save up ridiculous amounts to buy bonuses for them. :P
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  10. #20
    Originally Posted by Zume_Frostpaw Go to original post
    Yep. Just save up your steel. If you did all of the daily orders/bi-daily orders on any given day, that's easily around 2k steel plus match-end steel rewards which would bring one to what... 3k steel? Easily. Even if you can't play every day, it is quite achievable to get 15k steel fairly quickly.

    They gave us a free 12-day champion status at the start of the season to help folks get steel faster. Hopefully you've been putting that to use whenever possible.

    I have family and a day job, as well, but still can amass steel fairly quickly. The two daily orders should only take 10-20 minutes to do.
    It is for people like you that are willing to pay for everything that these company milk us...

    15k is way too much, it is a marketing strategy to force people to buy season pass and make it look like a good deal!
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