Did the new heroes ruin the game even more | Forums

[manna91]

Just as ridiculous as people complaining about two character that can literally die in 3 hits if you aren't trash. They will fix the characters when they can, they first have to see how they play in the community. Till then you can either keep crying, stop playing the game or learn to not be a baby and enjoy the game. Learn to adapt your play style to your opponent, if you fight everyone the same way you are obviously going to suck against certain people, especially new people who you aren't accustom to fighting.

[dekot11]

Just as ridiculous as people complaining about two character that can literally die in 3 hits if you aren't trash. They will fix the characters when they can, they first have to see how they play in the community. Till then you can either keep crying, stop playing the game or learn to not be a baby and enjoy the game. Learn to adapt your play style to your opponent, if you fight everyone the same way you are obviously going to suck against certain people, especially new people who you aren't accustom to fighting.

What play style? dodge or lose? that's fun for you? The fact is that the two new characters have way more tools than everybody else. They get the fastest lights in the game and more unblockables than most of the old cast. Lower hp doesn't balance them. It just makes more fights that are all or nothing. That isn't fun.

[manna91]

Well yes the game is fun for me. Learning how to fight new opponents is what makes this game great. Not crying because I'm not able to get easy wins. Shinobi's lights are fast, agreed, but not impossible to block once you get used to him, and he is squishy as hell. And Centurion is easy if you know how to space yourself. Ends up forcing your opponent to do more charged heavies to close the distance giving you the opportunity to punish off a dodge. If you are outmatched in strength, use strategy.

[SirCorrino]

Yes, it made 4v4 absolutely miserable. Cent has so much CC you don't even get to do stuff in teamfights against him. Shinobi has the stupid kick and if he's the last person standing good luck ever catching him. Had several games where the full Breaking timer runs out because a Shinobi is just weeb-running away and the winning team just gives up chasing him.

I honestly don't believe for a second that the devs have playtested these heroes AT ALL. There's just no way they could have done that and still release it like this.

[dekot11]

Well yes the game is fun for me. Learning how to fight new opponents is what makes this game great. Not crying because I'm not able to get easy wins. Shinobi's lights are fast, agreed, but not impossible to block once you get used to him, and he is squishy as hell. And Centurion is easy if you know how to space yourself. Ends up forcing your opponent to do more charged heavies to close the distance giving you the opportunity to punish off a dodge. If you are outmatched in strength, use strategy.

dude you're not understanding me. I don't care if you beat every centurion and ninja you face, for all I know you can have trash mmr and might only be facing trash players playing those characters.

my point is that on paper, these two have way more tools than others. they objectively do more free damage off spam. those are objective facts, I don't care if you are a dodging master who never gets hit by any attack in this game, that is not my point. these two new guys are extreme power creep and it's not good for the game. understand?

[Danioku]

both ******ed bugged heros with broken or cheesy mechanics in perfect Ubitrash style

[manna91]

They really don't have more tools at all. They just have tools you aren't used to yet so its harder to deal with. But I get it, gotta get them salty tears out.

[DeLatv]

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...6#post12655786

54% that is more than half, kinda say it did affected the game more negative way...

Even its only "133" votes, id say above 50% means they did ****ed it up...

And i think its cos of unblockable attacks again. Its just not fun to play against heroes whos only defense is dodge... there needs to have unblockable parry or some sort.
Unblockable attacks should be a rarity 5-10% of attacks, an unexpected, surprising attack otherwise heavily punishable (Valkyrie), or being an punish move like Lawbringer. (after block shove)
It should never exist in form of strong opener (Like Warlord/Conq/Cent/Warden/Shinobi) They all have a common attack that majority dislikes, and every single one of the had or will be nerfed, hope devs will learn from it, not step on the same mistake again.

[Duuklah]

It's ridiculous that people try to defend the new characters. Yeah, their attacks are dodgeable, so what? It would be ******ed if they were unblockable, unparriable, and undodgeable. Two of the biggest complaints people had about the game pre-patch were spammable unblockables and 500ms lights. And both new characters have both. That is dumb.

But it doesn't even just end there. They both get more free damage than any of the old characters were able to put out. People were complaining about LB's shove into a dodgeable light attack, and warlord's free light after a headbutt. The worst used to be warden's two lights. Compare that with what these two new characters get in terms of guaranteed damage off their spam.

I don't care how awesome you are at the game and how many centurions and ninjas you eat for breakfast, if you can't see that this is extreme power creep you are being willfully blind.

Exactly. Willful blindness because all those defending the Centurion are new Centurion mains who blew 10s of 1000s of silver on the toon.

[Obdach01]

I'm a Valk main and just played Cent and Shinobi to get used to their movesets, so I can counter them with ease... which I can now. I understand some disappointment of some people, but they are by no means OP. They are Teamfighter, who get really hard to beat when 1vsX against them. Don't take them on more than 1vs1... and if it happens, get your damn team together to help you, else they melt you. Set a beacon and your team will come for help. If the other team is smart enough to utilize those to as a team (the only way they can shine... 1vs1 they are garbage), then get your team together.
Any game mode you are playing is a team game mode. Only 1vs1 is solo. If you fail to utilize your team, you have failed the game mode. It's not the new toons, it's you. YOu who is not able to adapt to a new game style, because there are new toons now. You want to keep playing the way you do, with no changes. And when something new comes, you want that new to adapt to you, and not you to the new.
Sorry guys... the problem is not the new situation, but you failing to adapt. In evelotion that's called natural selection. Adapt, or get melted by the new situation.