New Heroes VS Turtle Meta | Forums

[DitosX]

So the new heroes were ment to counter the turtle meta.
I myself really didnt see that much of a problem with that meta.
So far they seeme to have become the new heroes we need counters to,
making new meta practicly loads of damage and hard to counter new heroes.
This being even worse than turtle meta, they have given these two new heroes so
much control and damage out puts that it makes them harder to counter than warlord
or conquer. The combos of conquer and Warlord both do a lot less damage than
centurions combo. Shinobis combo is somewhat weaker but it is executable at range.

I dont want to say that its all bad and the new Heroes are all bad.
Im just comapiring their damage output to the ones they were ment to counter.
That being sayd their abilityes are sometimes even worse against Heroes with less
defence than the ones they were ment to counter. I could understand if they would have
something that would work specialy against defence, but right now it just seemes that the
only idea to fight against turtle meta was giveing these champions more offence than
others.

Ofcourse we still need to learn how to counter them, but they dont seeme to have any sort
of penalty considering they were built around the idea of going full offence to counter the Heavys.
Im sure there are a lot of players who have countered them and annhialated them via their
superior skill with the opposing class.
Really I like the ideas of these new Heroes but they are in need of testing to make them balanced.

[nyrue]

you cant fix the defensive meta with heroes, if you are directly quoting ubisoft that's truly concerning, you need to fix the core mechanics,

[UbiJurassic]

The new heroes are not the answer to fixing the defensive meta. The defensive meta was something that arose after the launch of the game and is something we are seeking to address in a major future patch. No details just yet on it, but we hope to have more to share on it soon.

[DitosX]

As you sayd, its something that arose.
What I want to say is that no matter the game there are player who use tens of different tactics.
And in this game where defence is one of its key components, what makes this turtle meta.
Only problem with turtle meta is that it forces us to play mostly, tactical between the lines.

I actually have a question too:
Its about new Heroes, I understand they just came out and are probably in need of testing and balanceing.
How were the new Heroes tested? I mean were they compaired to other champions in there offence and tactics?
Asking beacause it seemes that centurion deals a lot of damage with just GB and the following combo, while
most other Heroes GB and get in only a single Heavy hit.