Ubi. Please stop nerfing everything | Forums

[SpringReborn]

I get that you guys are trying to please everyone, but you will end up breaking everything in the end. Same thing happened to Bungie with Destiny. They nerfed almost everyhting because a couple of kids started crying and then they had to roll out a patch to return many of the things to how they originally were because they nerfed them so much they became unusable.

I see that almost every week there is a new nerf. I saw the same thing with bungie. They took over a year to notice their mistake. Please dont do the same

[Antonioj26]

I get that you guys are trying to please everyone, but you will end up breaking everything in the end. Same thing happened to Bungie with Destiny. They nerfed almost everyhting because a couple of kids started crying and then they had to roll out a patch to return many of the things to how they originally were because they nerfed them so much they became unusable.

I see that almost every week there is a new nerf. I saw the same thing with bungie. They took over a year to notice their mistake. Please dont do the same

So I'm curious what your actual mind set is. I'm not trying to debate you just genuinely curious what your thoughts are since there are many like you. Do you think they just got everything correct right off the bat, just on their first try? If that's a no then what's the problem with editing that? If you make a typo on paper on your first draft do you keep it in the final? If the answer is yes to my initial question can you please explain how they've perfectly balanced a game on the first go?

[SpringReborn]

So I'm curious what your actual mind set is. I'm not trying to debate you just genuinely curious what your thoughts are since there are many like you. Do you think they just got everything correct right off the bat, just on their first try? If that's a no then what's the problem with editing that? If you make a typo on paper on your first draft do you keep it in the final? If the answer is yes to my initial question can you please explain how they've perfectly balanced a game on the first go?

Im not saying it is perfectly balanced. Im saying that I see a new nerf almost every week. Obviously they need to do some tweaking, but they also need to take their time to analize what they will do, not rush things to please the impatience of the brats that keep complaining regardless of how many patches they roll out.

[Antonioj26]

Im not saying it is perfectly balanced. Im saying that I see a new nerf almost every week. Obviously they need to do some tweaking, but they also need to take their time to analize what they will do, not rush things to please the impatience of the brats that keep complaining regardless of how many patches they roll out.

But you don't actually know what their process is for how they balance, you are just assuming it's based on what people are saying in the forums.

[SpringReborn]

But you don't actually know what their process is for how they balance, you are just assuming it's based on what people are saying in the forums.

Then enlighten me. What is their process? Because in their livestreams, when they talk about the patches, they literally say, no joke, stuff like this: "We see that in our forums people keep complaining about yadayada so we went ahead and fixed that yadayada".

That is coming from the french guy with the funny english accent which is in charge of all that. Go on and watch some of the warrior's den livestreams. He says himself that the fixes they make are based on what they see people talking about in their forums.

[Antonioj26]

Then enlighten me. What is their process? Because in their livestreams, when they talk about the patches, they literally say, no joke, stuff like this: "We see that in our forums people keep complaining about yadayada so we went ahead and fixed that yadayada".

That is coming from the french guy with the funny english accent which is in charge of all that. Go on and watch some of the warrior's den livestreams. He says himself that the fixes they make are based on what they see people talking about in their forums.

I don't remember exactly what he says but I'm sure you are leaving out a lot, i believe they talk about feedback from the competive players and also win/loss ratio as well. I don't know what their process is but I don't think it's fair to say that it's only because people are whining. If that were true warlord still wouldn't be the dominant character in the cast and with how many times people complain about feats those surely would have been nerfed. Both examples I've given have remained relatively untouched and as a matter of fact no nerfs that I can think of aside from maybe shugokis have completely ruined whatever it was prior to the nerf. Pk is still one of the top 3 despite her nerfs and same with warden.

It's up for debate with conqueror but I think many are wrong with where they place him on the tier list. I honestly think they've done a great job so far, everyone they've touched has brought them closer to the center in my own opinion. Some disagree and that's fine but I think in general they haven't knocked one of the top characters to the bottom or shot one of the bottom characters all the way to the top

[Gemini-Iceland]

Guys Centurion is game breakingly OP now. Like one hit from him leads to a combo that ends up taking all your stamina and over 50% life...

[kumanchik]

Guys Centurion is game breakingly OP now. Like one hit from him leads to a combo that ends up taking all your stamina and over 50% life...

1 you suck 2 the kick AND JAB are dodgeable 3 get good

[UrWaifuAintReal]

1 you suck 2 the kick AND JAB are dodgeable 3 get good

This.

[JetForceF22]

I will say after today's Centurion nerfs I feel a little disappointing with what they did. I know they needed a bit of a re-work, I will acknowledge they were tough to fight. With that being said, it now it feels like I'm playing in slow motion. The skill chain combos now feel like I'm swinging with exhaustion mode. There needs to be a little middle ground here with the changes in balance, it feels like the devs went full tilt 400% nerf mode, when it only needed a 25% adjustment. I was actually enjoying this class very much too.

Too slow, too slow, I think centurions issue was they had way to much stamina mitigation. In my opinion, their speed needs to be brought back (its what makes the class fun) and stamina drain needs to be lowered or removed altogether from a few of their abilities. Kick has a like 4000% increase in cast time, I'll go make dinner while my kick skill charges

I think the two new classes were implemented to beat the defense meta. But then their speed gets a major nerf forcing them to play much more defensibly.

All you had to do to counter Centurion was side step. Everything misses! But we don't even get a week before the hate train causes a League of Legend style dev nerf. Fix what was broken (guaranteed heavy attack, too much range on leap, kick spamming, too much stamina drain) but killing the classes strength and removing the main aspect that made the class fun (the aggressive attack speed pressure) is a critical crushing blow to the class. Minor nerfs for balance, not c4 style reworks (specially since the class isn't even available for a lot of players!)