Centurion denies feints??? | Forums

[MasterChiefPON]

Hi, I'm a Kensei main and I have a concern about Centurion. This is not about what Kensei needs btw.

Since I don't have an unblockable to initiate, feints are my bread and butter but Centurion heavies are so fast that thay are coming through some of my feints.

For example, I canceled my top unblockable to do a light, the centurion fell for it, but his heavy came before I could even hit my light, then I canceled one heavy to gb and it hit me right away.

Why does the centurion has heavies with a light attack speed?? I don't know yet which feints it affects because the characters are new but that's what I'm experiencing.

Have you noticed it?

[Jasado]

His first heavy is insanely fast, actually.

There is a thread offering some purported frame data, and yeah, his heavy IS basically as fast as a light uncharged.

You make a really valid point in terms of that he invalidates the exact thing high level Kensei players must rely on to reliably do damage and not get parried.

Why be skilled when you can just mash heavy and beat any option you choose, right?

He could probably heavy you out of a totally unfeinted overhead heavy too.

Guess you better loosen up those light attack keys and never ever execute him outside of a grab/heavy, lmao.

[MasterChiefPON]

Also, I feel that the time window to dodge some his unblockables after taking a hit are so little that for some characters it's like dodging a heatbutt on reaction. I play on console by the way.

[MasterChiefPON]

His first heavy is insanely fast, actually.

There is a thread offering some purported frame data, and yeah, his heavy IS basically as fast as a light uncharged.

You make a really valid point in terms of that he invalidates the exact thing high level Kensei players must rely on to reliably do damage and not get parried.

Why be skilled when you can just mash heavy and beat any option you choose, right?

He could probably heavy you out of a totally unfeinted overhead heavy too.

Guess you better loosen up those light attack keys and never ever execute him outside of a grab/heavy, lmao.

It's crazy, next time I'm gonna try to cancel it and inmediately heavy in the same direction to see if I get the parry.

[dekot11]

really my heavy gets blocked parried quite enough really. as a cent main. Also think of the weapon we are using.. not exactely a knights claymore... not only that, but our reach is also incredily short compared to other classes.jump atk is expected by now... dodged and parried. kick is completely dodgeable and telegraphed. been punished enough... so yeah I dont see the problem. not exactely light atk spd trust me on this.

you don't think it's a problem that his heavies are so fast they're immune to feints?

[kumanchik]

so a character cant counter your play style? funny

[dekot11]

so a character cant counter your play style? funny

lol are you serious? feinting is an integral part of the gameplay. that's like having a character who's immune to blocking.

[MasterChiefPON]

Also kick is easily dodged, I'm talking about jab, it feels like if he hits me with a heavy my window to dodge is really small and if connection is not that good it feels like after a hit it's super hard to dodge the jab (after a hit, not after a block).

[MasterChiefPON]

really my heavy gets blocked parried quite enough really. as a cent main. Also think of the weapon we are using.. not exactely a knights claymore... not only that, but our reach is also incredily short compared to other classes.jump atk is expected by now... dodged and parried. kick is completely dodgeable and telegraphed. been punished enough... so yeah I dont see the problem. not exactely light atk spd trust me on this.

I'm not talking about raw heavies or lunge attack, I can parry those too. I'm talking about the heavy that comes if Centurion falls for a feint, it comes so quickly that it denies all options except to try to parry it and it can be canceled.

[VJWalker85]

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...you-about-this there's a Ubi mod on this thread that says he will forward the thread to his dev team. This heavy speed thing should make it's way over to that thread.