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[Flipmeisters]

The feeling of the game is different but I would say that 4v4 is no fun anymore.

[Dude_of_Valor]

About the same. New maps and characters are always welcome, just need to learn effective ways to deal with Centurion and Shinobi. Will come with time but think I have sussed them out.

[eastw00tz]

Okay... so just because Ubisoft replied to this thread I write down some things that in my opinion brakes the hole game.

First of all im a frustrated player, that loved the game till season 2.
Since season 2 its only a spammy, crowd controled, MESS. Especially in 4v4. Very often you can lay your controller next to you, go for a drink and watch you stuck in a stun chain till you are dead.

Well... to the heros

Shinobi:
- WAY to fast. I cant just react to that much stuff he can trow out. Sure im not the best player, but do i have to be the best to be aible havin fun in this game? hum, i dont think so.

- His double dash kick is nearly unavoidable. I tried it so much in the last days. Sometimes i get it, but i would say if a player is good with shinobi, its safe.

- His ranged attacks! In 4v4 the shin can be out of sight while you are facing another enemy and throw all of his **** to you. It has to be CLEARLY shown on your guard stance that there is a ranged shin attacking you. Because you just cant see any Animation, you dont even notice there is something till they have you in their chain. Its simply impossible to react in 4v4 when a shinobi is out of sight.

Centurion

- His Kick. Needs a rework. He must not get the ability to spam this ****, till he kicked you half a mile over the map. Kick have to be slower or even cost MUCH MORE stamina. Look at the conq... 2 shield bashes and he is out of stam

- Stamina penetration. Way to much - if i fight with a conq against a centurion, im out of stamina instant and never get my stamina back. Its so stupid.


There are sure more things to get adjusted both sides, but thats the main things i mentioned.


I see the Centurion more balanced these days as the Shinobi. Shinobi is pure cancer in 4v4 and duells. I have 200 hours in this game (not that much i know, but something) and i cant imagine how a newer player will counter all his ****. I just cant imagine... because i cant counter it after 200 hours spent on the game mechanics!


Why im posting all this and still play the game? Because i paid a lot of money in season 1 and for season pass. Im hoping this game will come up again. But at this time, its broken, really broken!

[My.Insanity]

Less fun.. i realy tried not to cry over the new Heros.. i was like okay.. its the first day you have no idea how they work.. a day later is was like.. okay i nearly lost every dominion match so far cuz i cant hold a single Point without getting kicked / knocked down / or stabed... maybe it would be the same if everyone on the enemy team would play Conq with SB or Warden with SB... but i start to realize that every Dominionmatch was getting shorter and shorter... no one was able to "HOLD" a point in Dominion... everyone was just roaming and ganking and i was like.. huh? I can normaly defend a point against 2 or 3 enemys till one of my mates come and help me.. but now it was diffrent the Centurio can break your defense so god damn fast that no one is able to help you.. even if you use revenge its a f**king joke i mean.. what is revenge good for if you cant attack or defend till help is comming??

Im always aware of my Stamina i know the enemy can take a lot of it by parry my attacks but the Centurio is like a Pornstar who is sucking out the Stamina of your ****.. ech kick each hit each throw each parry... and when he finaly has sucked you dry you cant do **** and you wont get any Stamina back no matter how much +% your gear has because all of his combos inclued kicks and punches and throws...

And dont get me startet on how ****ed you are when he makes you fall and he can jump in your face.. for example: if the Valk hits you with her speersweep you fall down... and she can land 1 heavy attack and its done.. if an Ally hits the target on the ground before or after that heavy you are able to block. (note: speersweep can be easy doged and does 0 dmg at all)

Centurio can punch you to the ground (wich deals dmg if he got the feat and tracks very hard) when you hit the dirt.. he can jump in your face (which is 1 heavy attack with more dmg then normal) and also his whole team can follow up with attacks and there is nothing you can do.. even if you want cuz your camera is going crazy after this awesome jump..

Long story short.. Centurio is the King in Dominion and the only way to play Dominion anymore is ganking the enemys.. defend a point to get 2points/sec is useless stay in group and gank.

[DrinkinMyStella]

i love concept of the new DLC but putting characters with these capabilities in a game where some heroes broken and are just not geared up to play against. Centurion, way too many unblockables and stunning attacks with too many guaranteed hits. shinobi, way too many moves to mix up a really good player will be unstoppable with him/her and soon everyone will be unstoppable imagine a geared up rep 5 team of shinobis! that is not going to be fun and then your going to punish me for quitting the match.

[MrForz]

It feels less fun. I once said that Warden was on the right track to breaking that turtle meta and I expected all the base characters to have access to more combos and openers for more guesses. Instead of that you get to have 2 new characters LOADED with those moves and the rest except for like Valk and Warden is obselete.

[Taediumx]

I'd call this reaction justified, to centurion at least... being able to stunlock a player for 6 seconds off just landing a heavy is absolutely absurd.

This.

[Butonfly]

You should put the game mode.

Except for the Centurion stamina drain, new heroes are totally fine in Duels.

So, more fun for me.

So 10% of all game modes are fine.

Meanwhile 90% of game modes consisting of 99% of the player-base isn't.

Hmmmm,

[Hillbill79]

Shouldn't be doing a poll yet. You should wait until the new guys are available to everyone.

I'm looking forward to you guys getting the new guys.

I know how they play, so come the 23rd, ill be playing some of my other guys who can smash Cent and shinobi pretty consistently.

You'll all be on here then crying they need a buff hahahahaaa.

[Butonfly]

Appreciate the feedback everyone - we'll be taking what you said here and using that when we do our post-release hero evaluation in 2-3 weeks.
We'll be looking at the numbers and feedback before making a decision on balance changes for the new guys in town.

There's a couple of issues

-To much damage flying around in 4v4 modes, especially with the amount of CC. This is tied to the gear stat changes.

-New heroes have to many unblockables. To much spam.

-1vX is a death sentence now, especially if the new heroes are involved. If two guys want to focus one guy, it's run away or GG.

-It's just not fun anymore. I've played For Honor every day since release. My number 1 go to game. I'd complete my order if nothing else. Tonight I turned it off and swapped to another game without bothering to finish orders. I don't want to touch For Honor until something changes now. It's not just not fun, it's a disgusting experience.

-You dun gone broke the game.