The REAL reason people hate Centurion... | Forums

[ATBallZ88]

He promotes PLAYER SKILL DEVELOPMENT, and EFFECTIVE TEAMWORK

I was responding to another post from another person having issues with the Centurion. In several threads, I copied and pasted one of my long posts about the Centurion's attack capabilities and how to handle them. Offering several tips to people about how to combat the Centurion if they're seriously having a hard time. One of said tips, was that the player should learn to run away from a gank situation and find help from an ally to divide and conquer when facing multiple Centurions. To this remark, it was answered something along the lines that "you dont need to learn to run and get help when dealing with any other character in the game".

Okay, here's the thing. The Centurion and the Shinobi are new characters that introduce completely new styles of play, and trying to compare either of the two to pre-existing characters is comparing apples to oranges. Yet the Centurion seems to be seeing the most hate, because people seem to be getting demolished in both 1v1 and gank type scenarios.

The Centurion is specifically designed to kill the turtle meta, and his entire moveset is geared toward ripping you out of your guard and forcing you to either move out of the way or parry. You CAN NOT fight him like you fight every other character in the game. In order to avoid getting completely destroyed, you need to learn to break loose from the sole reliance on blocking or shield camping and actually learn how to effectively time dodges and parries. In other words, he is actively promoting skillful development that can help you to get better at the game against ALL characters.

Now, when it comes to ganks, ganks in general are annoying as hell. But against the constant onslaught of unblockables, dealing with a group of Centurions can be straight up cancer. However, this IS A GOOD THING. You have to remember that this is a character that is DESIGNED TO RIP THROUGH YOUR GUARD, so trying to fight on a group solo and trying to take on the world by yourself by attempting to multi-directional guard into revenge spam IS JUST GOING TO GET YOU KILLED. The majority of the For Honor community is chock full of people with "I'm gonna kill absolutely everything and **** everyone else, steal all the kills, intentionally spam attacks into my allies to knock them around so I can do so, and me me me me me" attitudes and play styles. The Centurion forces you to not only seek out help, but further promotes EFFECTIVE teamwork where you have to work together cooperatively rather than selfishly or you're all going to die.

The implementation of this character, both on the solo side and when it comes to teamwork, actively promotes growth and development . And that's why you people hate it so much. You don't want to have to learn how to play outside of your comfort zone. And you definitely don't want to learn how to play cooperatively and have to give up being selfish d-bags. Oh no, I'm fighting Centurions so I can't beat on my allies, boo hoo.

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

https://youtu.be/IMno3nB0hHg

"Effective Teamwork"

[DeLatv]

Something so dumb i havent read for a while...

Can i guess, how much Centurion have you been playing these past 2 days?...

[ATBallZ88]

I've seen that exact same situation in any pair containing a nobushi, conqueror, or lawbringer. The Centurion isn't doing anything that hasn't already been done. It should be noted however, that electing to begin the fight against the orochi with your back to a wall in the first place was a poor decision.

[JohnBrasser]

I agree with you, everyone in the community would rather scream and cry begging for nerfs rather then actually learn how to play wit and against these new heros.

But unfortunately Ubisoft will listen to these whiners and in a week or so I bet these new heros will be get an unneeded nerf then there will be more complaining about how they were nerfed..

It will be a never ending cycle.

[ATBallZ88]

Something so dumb i havent read for a while...

Can i guess, how much Centurion have you been playing these past 2 days?...

Played him for a few hours. Let me guess, you're one of the people getting destroyed because you suck at the game, don't know what a dodge or parry is, and generally whine about anything that kicks your ***?

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

I've seen that exact same situation in any pair containing a nobushi, conqueror, or lawbringer. The Centurion isn't doing anything that hasn't already been done. It should be noted however, that electing to begin the fight against the orochi with your back to a wall in the first place was a poor decision.

I agree on that being a poor decision, but not a decision that should kill me with being able to do nothing about it

It is worth noting that the attack was undodgeable. At least Conq and Nobushi are dodgeable

Also worth noting that I don't agree with the LB Pancake spam, I believe it should have a delay before use just as the Cent should have a slight slowing of the attack.

[ATBallZ88]

I agree on that being a poor decision, but not a decision that should kill me with being able to do nothing about it

It is worth noting that the attack was undodgeable. At least Conq and Nobushi are dodgeable

Also worth noting that I don't agree with the LB Pancake spam, I believe it should have a delay before use just as the Cent should have a slight slowing of the attack.

The reason the attack was undodgeable was because you were being staggered by the orochi long enough for the centurion to fully charge his heavy attack. The Centurion has two attacks that can pin you in place and allow you to fully charge the punch, the leaping thrust attack and the fully charged heavy. Both of them are disgustingly slow and easy to dodge. The problem being faced here, again as mentioned in my original post, is that you're trying to fight SOLO AGAINST A CENTURION IN A GANK SITUATION. You can't do that. If you were facing him 1v1, like with that first centurion, it wouldn't have ended the way it did. But you can't get mad for being in a constant state of stun-lock that was more the fault of the Orochi than the Centurion.

[D4_Grizzly]

"I've seen that exact same situation in any pair containing a nobushi, conqueror, or lawbringer."

No, u don't. Grab, punch, kick. over and over again, all unblockable. U have totaly no chance to get away. I tried it over and over again. Grab, punch, kick. Totaly unbalanced!

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

The reason the attack was undodgeable was because you were being staggered by the orochi long enough for the centurion to fully charge his heavy attack. The Centurion has two attacks that can pin you in place and allow you to fully charge the punch, the leaping thrust attack and the fully charged heavy. Both of them are disgustingly slow and easy to dodge. The problem being faced here, again as mentioned in my original post, is that you're trying to fight SOLO AGAINST A CENTURION IN A GANK SITUATION. You can't do that. If you were facing him 1v1, like with that first centurion, it wouldn't have ended the way it did. But you can't get mad for being in a constant state of stun-lock that was more the fault of the Orochi than the Centurion.

Three things

1: It was because I was in a corner, making it undodgeable, seeing as I could not physically dodge it.

2: The Orochi had nothing to do with it, if you look closely, me being punched gave me hyper armor for a duration, making me unstaggerable.

3: Even IF the first two points were invalid, this would still make it a broken combonation of characters, meaning that it's still abusable in a normal situation

No amount of numbers should take out any skill required in a game, that's a 100 to 0 combo on one of the highest health characters