Conq never stopped to be top tier. He is so easy to play that he is ridicolously effective against ANY opponent unless your opponent is without a doubt BETTER than you.Originally Posted by TheLastPandaa Go to original post
After the little nerf is weaker than warlords ( who isn't ?) and thab wardens, but that doesn't mean is bad, actually is one of the best. But not the best
Thats not eve true. Is barely punishable by raiders only.Originally Posted by Rikuto-san Go to original post
The only punishable charge is the unlocked one.
Conq is still top tier without any doubts. He is one of the classes that can react 100% times to the lb block shove mix ups.
Conq is a monster because is ******ed easy
Totally agree with a lower top tier position, meaning that his average result are quite good...but I won't risk him in a duel against a good player. I stopped playing with it because he actually was really boring and the warden actually offer a more versatile gameplay.
His superior defense and block is very effective on build like the centurion because it actually block his charged heavy and there is so no possibility to follow it with the punch ^^
Same with the imperial kick, it open an opportunity for a free shield bash reply.
So basically this character offer what is missing against a centurion charge, AIR
But the meaning of this post was clearly that if centurion seems to be a really good choice in death match line up, a good reply would be a warden/conqueror reply ^^
Is good to see that there are diferent opinions about it.Originally Posted by Lord-Micidial Go to original post
I truely believed that conqueror only had one good strategy, and that was his SB. I also believed that after 1'5 his sb had become very very useless because it could be easily countered with a side dodge+ light or side dodge + Gb.
I even made 2 videos proving that, but again, i guess i did something wrong. (vids on the spoiler)
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I also believed that conq atacks were very slow and very easy to parry and that his dmg was also very low. I even thought that he had no good openers to star a fight since his sb was nerfed and that his only real way to deal any dmg war turteling and blocking a heavy to get a granted side heavy. I was 100% sure until now that after 1.5 he only remained as a +- valid character on 4vs4 due to the defensive meta (that is geting destroyed eventually).
But who knows. I may have been wrong all this time!
You opened with a shield bash, the most obvious thing you can do. Open with the 50/50 run charge.Originally Posted by TheLastPandaa Go to original post
SHield bash is too fast to be reacted 100% of the times. also the kensei needs to perfectly time the dodge attack, or you can miss the SB and even bvlock its side and free GB.
Conqueror is a beast, especially if you turtle up.
PS: was that a bot ? LOL they cheat so they don't even count.
[QUOTE=TheLastPandaa;12647751]Is good to see that there are diferent opinions about it.
I truely believed that conqueror only had one good strategy, and that was his SB. I also believed that after 1'5 his sb had become very very useless because it could be easily countered with a side dodge+ light or side dodge + Gb.
I even made 2 videos proving that, but again, i guess i did something wrong. (vids on the spoiler)
Spoiler: Show
I also believed that conq atacks were very slow and very easy to parry and that his dmg was also very low. I even thought that he had no good openers to star a fight since his sb was nerfed and that his only real way to deal any dmg war turteling and blocking a heavy to get a granted side heavy. I was 100% sure until now that after 1.5 he only remained as a +- valid character on 4vs4 due to the defensive meta (that is geting destroyed eventually).
But who knows. I may have been wrong all this time![/QUOTE]
Tried to tell ya......That on consoles there is a small window when your doing your sb that if you light attack immediately after you stop the shield bash animation your light will come to fast for them to dodge and gb you. Its very difficult to do. It takes practice to hit that window.......Note I am using an elite controller so its alot easier to do.
But I agree his attacks are slow and easily parried. Thats my only issue with him really. PS I couldnt do my videos because we had game dvr issues on the xbox with For Honor at that time.
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such a good player much skill
please rework conqueror ubi