So, get this, it donned on me after reading a player's post who I am pretty sure we have likely not agreed on a single damn thing. Yet here we are, now both arguing the same side to an argument against the idiocy of players getting ruffled before learning things.
Basically what I am saying, to bring this full circle, is that you nubblets out there are getting crushed by new classes, and the single greatest thing they did was unite the veteran players under one banner.
Long Live L2P!!!
The ONLY thing that I could see being tweaked is the Shinobi's dodge kick.
Other than that I see absolutely nothing wrong with either of the heroes. In my opinion the salt is coming from players whose mains are Mid to Low Tier and are mad that these new heroes are better out of the box than their old ones.
Its like players think that because they are NEW they shouldn't be as good as or better than the old ones. Why shouldn't they? The new Heroes are Mid to High Tier out of the box. How is us having two new great options to play a BAD thing?
Its like someone giving you two delicious steaks and then you start complaining that these steaks are BETTER than the steaks they gave you last week.
It makes no sense.
I love social experiments.Originally Posted by Sykoink Go to original post
Well, I've been playing Raider , who is still a low tier hero and I have no problem beating either of them (except laggy shinobi who is really pure cancer), we'll still have too see how much of their kit is actually useful against good players and so far I've seen nothing from centurion (the trick is to not rely on the indicator but the animations as to not get fooled by Centurion mixups, not to rely on parrying but dodging as centurion whiffed attacks are very punishable) and only the kick from shinobi.Originally Posted by CoyoteXStarrk Go to original post
This argument doesn't make any sense......It's like you're saying there are only a couple of characters that should be playable relative to the time they were released. i think the new characters are better than the entire list of current heroes. If you don't properly defend their first attack their combos are guaranteed. No other class had combos that deal the damage they do while taking about your opponents stamina at the same time. This isn't a matter of "tiers". It's bad design. Which is why this game hasn't seen a competitive scene at all. Just poor design... Hopefully they can have the other classes "catch up" to the new ones because this game just because For Honor: Cent and shino only edition.
I kinda see them like the PK. She's got a learning curve of about 14 seconds, then you can start wrecking ppl. It didn't take long for shins and cents to start wrecking ppl.
Whereas, if I pick up a different hero that I have really never played like LB or kensei I'm going to get totally owned, and I should.
The learning curve should work both ways. People should lose to the new heros because they don't know them. Also the new heros should lose because people don't know how to play them.
You can judge for yourself what's happening.
Personally I think they were made this way to promote the product. I'm not against this. On the surface I think it looks smart. I mean why bother buying new heros if they suck right?
I also think they over played their hand and went too far with it if they drive ppl away from the game because they feel they can't play the heros that they like.
I'm guessing Ubi wants a game thats fun to play for the top 90% and not just the top 2%.
I'll say it so you don't have too. I should just git gud.
Originally Posted by razabak10mm Go to original post
This. Pretty sure they deliberately released broken characters in order to promote sales for the season pass.
I'm getting to rep 1 with Cent and I'm not touching this game until both cent and shinobi are fixed.
Agreed. I've gotten pretty decent at this game (not top tier by any means, but I can usually hold my own), and I'll keep playing but I think the Cent is pretty frustrating...going against two of them is a nightmare. So many fast unblockables and knockdowns it makes your head spin. I think they really did a poor job balancing them, but they probably did this to promote sales as has been said throughout this thread. Not the end of the world, but its a bit lame at the moment. I'm sure it'll level out though.