Refund My Steel Invested in Gear | Forums

[Dhaleks]

This is so incredibly stupid.[...] You could have given those bucks to some charity organization, would have been better spend.

Agreed! How people can spend so much into a game, that is beyond me...
Some guys really don't know what to do of their money.

[Gray360UK]

This kind of gear progress that makes your old gear redundant is a very common model, used in MMOs for decades. However, you don't usually pay for your gear in those. The problem with For Honor is that a lot of people have spent real money on Steel to get the gear they want and to upgrade it. Obviously the lesson here is don't buy Steel, but for those that have done so, there is a genuine issue of paying for something that is now redundant.

[Obdach01]

I've spent hundreds of dollars equipping my many characters to be 108. Ya I know, pay to win. But now you nerfed my investment. My gear means nothing now. I feel like I have been scammed. You will not get another penny out of me.

Terrible idea destroying our gear.

Well, I don't agree with changing things when players have invested time (money is your thing, so I leave this out). BUT
I have invested in my toon and have enjoyed it since. I don't have a lot of time so I played said toon 'only' 50 hours since release (it is the only one I played... Valk from the start). Now gear has changed and all investment was for nothing. However, I did get my ammount of fun out of the toon. It shouldn't be too bad starting a new one or re-investing in new stuff for the toon (I will do the later). After that I will enjoy another 50 hours with said toon, and when the time come and they change everything again, I will have had my fun time with that toon.
Basically, you did have your fun time, now it's time to rethink tactics and gear, and maybe the main (not in my case... I simply like Valk too much).
I don't think a refund is needed. And one more thing... don't spend real money on steel, if you mind changing your investment, because you already know what will happen in season 3 (and the majority, if not all, knew what will happen in season 2). If you spend money, don't be upset when season 3 hits.

Edit: I spent money, as well. But for cosmetics (only the mythic one for Valk). These don't change and I'm fine. Simply don't spend cash on things, which obviously will change.

[Alchemist..]

Lol i cant understand peoples who cry about new gear lvl. I can bet that everyone is going to loot>upgrade new gear anywaya and the old ones would become useless anyway. It's just a matter of time ut it is good to try to force some compensation from ubi.

This kind of gear progress that makes your old gear redundant is a very common model, used in MMOs for decades. However, you don't usually pay for your gear in those. The problem with For Honor is that a lot of people have spent real money on Steel to get the gear they want and to upgrade it. Obviously the lesson here is don't buy Steel, but for those that have done so, there is a genuine issue of paying for something that is now redundant.

It works the same with everything. If you buy some outfit / ornament, it means that the ubi can not release new ones because you have to pay a new one? No, its just your choice

[Kalsiner]

That kind of thread are funny. Did you really think gear would not evolve and stay the same forever ?

I've spent hundreds of dollars equipping my many characters to be 108. Ya I know, pay to win. But now you nerfed my investment. My gear means nothing now. I feel like I have been scammed. You will not get another penny out of me.

Terrible idea destroying our gear.

You paid for steel not for the best gear, what you do with it is up to you. I'm not sorry for you.

[Gray360UK]

You paid for steel not for the best gear, what you do with it is up to you. I'm not sorry for you.

That's being pointlessly pedantic. This game does allow you to buy your way to maxed out gear, because Steel, the currency with which we all buy our gear and upgrade it, is buyable with real money. Actual cash. Whether or not you believe Steel is something that people should spend real money on is another matter. But the fact that they can is not up for debate.

[Duuklah]

My 108 Valk gear is useless.

I had her maxed out for peak offense.. Now half my gear only gives a VERY small bonus to Attack.

Its like they changed which pieces give attack bonus to PURPOSELY MAKE US buy more silver to upgrade new gear.

FORCED US to buy new gear if we want our same stats (with higher lvl) as before.


So basically they pulled the rug out from under us to trick us into spending more money....

**** this game now.

[Captain-Courage]

The real purpose of a gear system in what is supposed to be an arena lobby skill based game is monetization and player retention, to give the player a false sense of progression (where the avatar progress, not the player). Nothing else, and certainly not gameplay enrichment.
The comparisons with MMORPGs are kinda stupid since the game is the total oppositie of that, organically. Maybe they come from low standards players, or players who actually never played them, or just never thought about what the actual gemplay and gamedsign tropes of what they play are, I don't know (good example just below my post, mentionning World of Warcraft ....)

Still, what we know now is that Ubi will use every poor F2P exploiter tactics to try to squeeze as much money as they can from their remaining userbase, since there are actual whales out there.

By the way to all the wanabe Mother Theresa down there, emphasizing with these poor, poor developpers : the production costs has already been covered by the initial sales (even if people stoped playing very quickly when faced with the actual quality of service provided, money was already in Ubi's pockets), the devs were and are still paid (they are salaried employees, even if Ubi tends to pay less than other companies in the sector), and the margins are enormous in digitlal industry compared to tradional industry.
Stop believing that they are like homeless starving people fighting to survive and get food in their plates please.
This is an AAA company on the stock market, not a little start up.

[Corvy]

What a bunch of kids, for **** sake...
if you spen tons of steel in your character, ITS YOUR PROBLEM, You could have saved and got equipment just playing, but no, you decided to buy it.
now you have to play more, or spend more, its not different.

Do you people realize that the gear obviusly is gonna be outdated the next time the add a new level of gear?. just like every game?. (wow, for exaple)
Conclusion: Save the money for executions and stuff like this, and get the stupid gear by playing or opening free chest!.

[Obdach01]

My 108 Valk gear is useless.

I had her maxed out for peak offense.. Now half my gear only gives a VERY small bonus to Attack.

Its like they changed which pieces give attack bonus to PURPOSELY MAKE US buy more silver to upgrade new gear.

FORCED US to buy new gear if we want our same stats (with higher lvl) as before.


So basically they pulled the rug out from under us to trick us into spending more money....

**** this game now.

You don't have to spend a single dime to upgrade your new gear. All you need to do is play. I didn't spent even one cent to upgrade the gear on my Valk. Nothing, nada, niente. Spending money was your choice, whatever the reason. But you could've done it the classic way. Just play the dailies and you will have enough. After upgrading the Valk gear I still sit on 28k of steel. I could upgrade the new gs with this... just missing the scrap. And all I did is play her for 50 hours. That's it. And that's all I played. All in all 50 hours.
Complaintrs that someone spend real cash out of his free will cannot be put on UBI. The only one responsible for this is you and you alone.