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[VJWalker85]

How do you deal with this? Every now and then I run into an aggressive lawbringer that spans between those 3 moves, they come at you so fast and it's fustraiting. I play a conqueror so the fight usually goes very slow, often we will both get down to critical health but I lose 80% of the time.

[Morpheus256]

If he does a dash into shove you can just dodge it for a free shield bash. If he does it after a block and you get hit you just look for a red indicator and dodge (preferably) into his attack to deflect it and get a free shield bash.

He won't do much heavies because of the free GB you get when you block them. It's either lights or feints (mostly). Either block or parry.

Grab. Just counter it.

[Netcode_err_404]

With a conq you should win 80% of the times against LB.

As explained above when they dash < shove is easy AF to dodge and get free shield bashes.

From block is even more easy, because no matter if LB goes for a block > shove > light or a block > shove > gb

If you doidge and start the sheidl bash you will win every single time.

And LB cannot even pounish you when out of stamina because every blocked heavy is a free GB for the conqueror.

Reallly man, conqs cannot lose vs a LB ever. Thats why conq is top tier even nerfed.

[Dizzy4213]

With a conq you should win 80% of the times against LB.

As explained above when they dash < shove is easy AF to dodge and get free shield bashes.

From block is even more easy, because no matter if LB goes for a block > shove > light or a block > shove > gb

If you doidge and start the sheidl bash you will win every single time.

And LB cannot even pounish you when out of stamina because every blocked heavy is a free GB for the conqueror.

Reallly man, conqs cannot lose vs a LB ever. Thats why conq is top tier even nerfed.

He also doesn't get the Blind Justice off of a light parry against a conqueror.

[Netcode_err_404]

He also doesn't get the Blind Justice off of a light parry against a conqueror.

Yes, almost forgot it.

Just because Lb is too op plz nerf

[Mudflaaaps]

So much ignorance here.

First of all, conqueror is NOT top tier. He's now settled down in the middle.

Conqueror does not get a guaranteed GB off a heavy block. That's just knowledge. Conq gets zero free hits.

Fighting lawbringers is the bane of conq, because of the guaranteed hits. Conqs speed just can't negate a lawbringer, who as you said can throw out moves at a frightening pace (dude really is OP as hell)

My tactics go like this as a conqueror;

Dodge the shove first, shoulder bash into light light heavy.
If you fail the dodge, take the shove and dirty free light as you prepare for the follow up. This could be literally anything as lawbringers mix up is insane, but if it's a bad player its usually a heavy, if it's a good player its usually a light or GB. Do NOT dodge after a shove, prepare to block.

Lawbrjngers have no real weakness, as they get a guaranteed hit off EVERY BLOCK. Your only hope is to turtle, spam shoulder bash-light and hope.

Also, try charging the heavy. Get it up to 2, switch sides a few times, you might get a lucky hit.

Also try to utilise the conquerors only dirty mechanic; guard stance feint. Do a heavy, instantly feint with guard stance, shield bash riposte. Might catch a lawbringer off guard.

[Netcode_err_404]

So much ignorance here.

First of all, conqueror is NOT top tier. He's now settled down in the middle.

Conqueror does not get a guaranteed GB off a heavy block. That's just knowledge. Conq gets zero free hits.

Fighting lawbringers is the bane of conq, because of the guaranteed hits. Conqs speed just can't negate a lawbringer, who as you said can throw out moves at a frightening pace (dude really is OP as hell)

My tactics go like this as a conqueror;

Dodge the shove first, shoulder bash into light light heavy.
If you fail the dodge, take the shove and dirty free light as you prepare for the follow up. This could be literally anything as lawbringers mix up is insane, but if it's a bad player its usually a heavy, if it's a good player its usually a light or GB. Do NOT dodge after a shove, prepare to block.

Lawbrjngers have no real weakness, as they get a guaranteed hit off EVERY BLOCK. Your only hope is to turtle, spam shoulder bash-light and hope.

Also, try charging the heavy. Get it up to 2, switch sides a few times, you might get a lucky hit.

Also try to utilise the conquerors only dirty mechanic; guard stance feint. Do a heavy, instantly feint with guard stance, shield bash riposte. Might catch a lawbringer off guard.

You should really buy the game.

Because you clearly do not own it yet.

I've heard is at strong discount nowadays, check it.

if you take a shove you can dash shield bash, and you will win every single time because that doidge will avoid the light, and shield bash will avoid the GB.




Conq is still top tier sorry.

[Netcode_err_404]

So many Lawb apologists...

If you "counter" it the way they tell you, the odds are you don't have a problem with it in the first place, since you're already on the reflex level that reaction-counters Warden vortex and PK light-spams.


For a more realistical solution, expect to tolerate through the light, and don't give out a GB. You can't react to both in most cases, so allow only the lesser of two evils, and never give out a GB -- just like against the Warden when there's no way to avoid vortex, it's better to give out a SB-light than a GB.

As soon as you get hited with shove dodge and shild bash. Is not about reflexes, is about timing, do it and you will win wvery single shove attempt. If you are on console well sorry for you.

Its about timing.
Raiders can do the same because they can cgb during a dodge.

Pk is all about reflexes and switch guard speed, so once again your argument is trash.
To counter warden's SB you do not meed reflexes, you just have to guess right because they can insta cancel a sb into a gb without warnings.

[JamaasK]

At least on PC, you can dodge when you see the attack indication. It is relatively reactable. I'm sure console players have it bad though.

If you're playing conq, just side dodge bash when he shoves you. You get a free light. Don't throw out random bashes, though, because Lawbringer can consequently counter you with shove.

[Netcode_err_404]

Cut the crap already, sweet jeebus. Your incessant bias towards one class, and brown-nosing to another is getting tiresome.

If the vortex is a "cancer", as is the "light spam", same with your bullsh* shove-light/shove-GB you're on a crusade to defend, dude.

Shove-light and a Shove-GB is as much a "guesswork" as any other bullshi* 50/50 you flame.

Git gud pleb

Im saying facts, you are just whining and saying ********es.

If ou are a console pleb blame ubitroll for having created a 30 fps capped fighting game do not come here to trash talk.


And in for your information, the real cancer is the guessing game when he charges up the bash, not the vortex, because if you give people a chance to avoid the bash would be ez pz.