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[CoyoteXStarrk]

He just needs more combo options.


People try to spam Oni Charge or GB because thats essentially all he has.


- He is slow as HELL

- His attacks are telegraphed and easily parried

- His Charge while powerful is in my opinion the single most predictable and easily dodged move in the entire game.

- His combos are useless due to his super slow attack speed.

- His hyper armor is only useful against slow opponents because all it takes is a second hit to interrupt whatever he is doing and since he takes SO LONG to do anything the hyper armor is only gonna get you 1 MAYBE 2 hits. Then if your opponent is any kind of smart he will just keep the pressure on to make sure you don't get the armor back.

- His stun is pointless since it knocks them out of range



His ONLY saving grace is that his damage is unreal, but thats assuming your opponent is trash enough to get hit by anything that you do.

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He just needs more combo options.


People try to spam Oni Charge or GB because thats essentially all he has.


- He is slow as HELL

- His attacks are telegraphed and easily parried

- His Charge while powerful is in my opinion the single most predictable and easily dodged move in the entire game.

- His combos are useless due to his super slow attack speed.

- His hyper armor is only useful against slow opponents because all it takes is a second hit to interrupt whatever he is doing and since he takes SO LONG to do anything the hyper armor is only gonna get you 1 MAYBE 2 hits. Then if your opponent is any kind of smart he will just keep the pressure on to make sure you don't get the armor back.

- His stun is pointless since it knocks them out of range



His ONLY saving grace is that his damage is unreal, but thats assuming your opponent is trash enough to get hit by anything that you do.

Zerkers can deal the same amount if damage and they are fast enough

A pk can literally melt a shugoki.

[UbiNoty]

I think it's very difficult to create a hero that is balanced both in duel and team/dominion scenarios - there's always some kind of give-and-take in exchange for different strengths/weaknesses under different scenarios. And I think this discrepancy is often why we see such a wide spectrum of opinions on heroes. But I have seen how you all feel about the Shugoki Oni-charge as well as his somewhat smaller moveset so I'll bring it up with the team.

[Enjolras_ABC]

Here is an idea i came up with as a new move set for Shugoki

NEW MOVES:

1- Change how Shugoki's headbutt works, make it like nobushi's kick where he can connect chains. Note that headbutt still stuns the opponent but is totally dodgeable.

So the combos should be like:

Light>Headbutt>Heavy
Heavy>Headbutt>Heavy

2- Make the second heavy chargable: Heavy>Charged Heavy / Light>Charged Heavy (you can also do this: Heavy>Headbutt>Charged Heavy or Light> Headbutt>Charged Heavy )

3- Shugoki can HEADBUTT when he dodges in every direction. HEADBUTT initiates chains. (kinda like warlords headbutt but slow enough to be dodgeable)

4- Hyper armor can only be obtained by landing a HEADBUTT

5- His HEAVY attacks are now hyper armored just like WL (NOT SURE ABOUT THİS ONE)

NERFS:

1- Hyper armor no longer regenerates it can be obtained.

2- Shugoki no longer one shots the opponent with his demons embrace

What do you guys think about this?