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[Enjolras_ABC]

Since the nerf, Oni charge became useless in 1 vs 1 situations. When i was playing a duel, i never used oni charge more then once but now that it is gone Shugoki lacks a good move. Are the developers planning to buff Shugoki's kit ?

[DrExtrem]

Right you are!

He needs:
- hyper armor to make sure, he can trade damage
- stun
- one shot ability, that heals

Oh wait ...

[FAT_GUTS]

Right you are!

He needs:
- hyper armor to make sure, he can trade damage
- stun
- one shot ability, that heals

Oh wait ...

DrExtrem shows how noobs think. He never tryed Shugoki and he never understand how fight against Shugoki:
- hyper armor which can be removed by GB which is save and non-punishable
- stun after every light / heavy attack which do 0 damage, push away enemy so Shugoki can not continue with attacking
- one shoot ability that heals which works only against noobs and enemies which not know how dodge

... hmm great

[Enjolras_ABC]

DrExtrem shows how noobs think. He never tryed Shugoki and he never understand how fight against Shugoki:
- hyper armor which can be removed by GB which is save and non-punishable
- stun after every light / heavy attack which do 0 damage, push away enemy so Shugoki can not continue with attacking
- one shoot ability that heals which works only against noobs and enemies which not know how dodge

... hmm great

Thank you.

[Dizzy4213]

I think he needs a bit of a rework. He's just so boring to play as, and fight against. Light into headbutt, rinse and repeat. Throw in the occasional GB and Heavy feint and that's it!

[sssnake154]

Also it will be great if devs will look on his recovery time.
OR i might do something wrong and you guys will correct me, but here is the point:
If you knocked down opponent with no stam, you get a free charge, which is, for sure, do a ton of damage and can literally destroy your enemy. Sounds great, for sure, but animatuon and recovery is so freaking slow, that opponent gets a free GB on you, which can lead to throw/heavy/environmental.
OR as i said before - i might be doing something wrong with timing, so please tell me if that's a case.

[Enjolras_ABC]

Here are some combos that you can do with Shugoki:


1- Light>Feint Heavy>GB>Heavy
2- Light>Feint Heavy>Light
2- Light>Feint Heavy>Light>Feint Heavy>Light>Headbutt (Beyblade combo)
3- Light>Feint Heavy>Hug
4- Light>Feint Heavy>WAGASHİCHUNİNAREEEE!!!
5- Feint Zone>GB>Heavy

Feinting heavy to GB or Light is Shugoki's 50/50

Thats pretty much it...

[Antonioj26]

DrExtrem shows how noobs think. He never tryed Shugoki and he never understand how fight against Shugoki:
- hyper armor which can be removed by GB which is save and non-punishable
- stun after every light / heavy attack which do 0 damage, push away enemy so Shugoki can not continue with attacking
- one shoot ability that heals which works only against noobs and enemies which not know how dodge

... hmm great

1. There's nothing safe about trying to gb a shugoki who has hyper armor, everyone try's this and all you have to do is hit them with a light. If they do get it off cgb and turtle til you get it back.

2.not meant to do damage it's meant to reduce the enemies stam, frustrate an enemy, and relieve pressure. Gives you extra time to get your armor back and if you get them exhausted with it you can do your heavy cancel 50/50

3.works even better when you know how to parry and fight in an environment that helps you capitalize on shugos hug. Wall stun gives a guaranteed hug.

I'm not saying shugo couldn't use a bit more variety but the examples you gave weren't reasons why. You just named off all of his strengths

[S0Mi_xD]

The only thing Shugoki needs is a small buff, better say adjustment for his Oni-charge.
They nerfed this move into the uselessnes (if this is a word).

So i think the best to do so is, enemies shoud be thrown against walls with Oni-charge for a guaranteed Light and headbutt.
This would be enough.

Shugoki is a very strong Hero, but fast and agile Heros are his bane.

Shugoki has advantages and disadvantages, both are well balanced.

[S0Mi_xD]

I think he needs a bit of a rework. He's just so boring to play as, and fight against. Light into headbutt, rinse and repeat. Throw in the occasional GB and Heavy feint and that's it!

Yes, if someone plays like this it is boring, but people who are playing shugoki this way are bad in general, that means they would play every char like this. Light, Heavy feint GB and repeat.