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Yeah you want to learn one character at least really well first and foremost, I think I was rep 5 peacekeeper before I started seriously levelling anything else (by seriously I mean I had a few others around rep 1) and she is rep 9 now because I spent so much of last season levelling others I have been putting time into her again before picking up others. One quirk I do have because I started out with an assassin is I tend to block every attack where with a fixed stance you don't need to if you are already guarding that side but it's not enough of a problem I feel like setting out to correct it lol.Originally Posted by Fady117 Go to original postSee, that's the thing; I never practiced on level 3 bots with anything other than Warden. Every other hero I've tried was either Duels, Skirmishes, and sometimes Tribute and Dominion, mostly for orders; there just never was any proper grinding alone against level 3 bots. My pure focus is on the Warden and I intend to squeeze out every little technique I can think of with the Warden; especially given that he's very vulnerable to dodge attacks, not the least Shaman, who has it as fast as a light attack, is a heavy, and cannot be GB'ed out of it.
I leveled Orochi to rep1, but that's mostly doing half-arsed duels against players, I still don't feel I learned him much. His combos differ, his mixups differ; until I truly master the Warden, training on another hero is likely to hinder me from mastering my favourite one.
I admire your flexibility in learning so many heroes! I, too, plan to do just that; I've already decided on my secondary, and he'll be HighlanderI just need more time... I only started For Honor early November hahaha
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I'm rep 11 Warden, and rep 1 Orochi, for a total of rep 12, but I still feel I'm like halfway there with the Warden. It's mostly due to having played Dominion so much while I was still rep 2, to just level up faster, stacking XP, and having nearly every Dominion match a salad of spam and gankfests without learning 1on1 combat much. These days I'm focusing more on Duel, Brawl and Elimination, as well as Custom Match against level 3 bots. The learning curve has definitely improved. Yet still a fairly long road to go.
Imo, I'd only dedicate time to another hero after I feel I don't struggle as much anymore against any other hero, particularly level 3 bots, because by then you'll already know the other hero's combos, feints, mixups, timings... it'd only be matter of looking at the movelist and checking out which is what. The learning process will definitely be faster than the time you spent on your original favourite hero, and you'll still feel you can counter the others with your OG choice.
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I am mostly a 4v4 objective (dominion and tribute) player, it is what I prefer when it comes down to it.At the same time I also spend some time in duel,especially with newer characters,because I get to the point I can't defend a zone 1v1 if I neglect that,so certainly I would say that is where you best learn a character. For some duel is what they prefer but I do think 4v4 players should go there now and again just to iron out bad habits you get away with in the madness of everyone swinging away at everyone else.
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Couldn't have put it better meself. While in 4v4 assists are rampant, really knowing your hero, and knowing your enemy, are a must; duels are just as important as 4v4 modes. As for Tribute, I wish I can play that more in PvP; I have no premade team yet, and even if I had, I lack a mic for proper communication. For Tribute I mostly do it PvAI. The idea of jumping in a random team in PvP, in a game mode that's focused on teamwork, tends to go haywire real quick. I've tried it, and it was every man for himself. No real coordination, and mostly pure luck to score more offerings than the other team.
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Yeah it's on you to read what is going on and do as best you can when it comes down to it.If I see any obvious gaps or if no one is protecting tributes I will fill it as best I can. it helps if your team has oracle, I defended two tributes because the other flag base was a constant 4v3 for the remaining tribute where occasionally one of the 4 on the opponent's side would break away to try to take ours, oracle let me cut them off and eventually enough of them were dead at one time the last was taken.Originally Posted by Fady117 Go to original post
Probably my best situation read was in dominion, we were breaking and the four of us were holding zone keeping fights outside of it so that our score was ticking up but it was not going fast enough the other team couldn't just run out the clock, I got lucky in a run to the other bas;e and held it just long enough to trigger double breaking which we won off. Tribute it is harder, you do need to luck into being matched with three players not running around like headless chickens trying to boost their own score, if you have at least two people playing smart, they can work around whatever the other two are doing.
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This. Can't tell you how many times I've been with and against people in Dominion and Tribute (mostly in Dominion) who play it like Skirmish, purely for the kills. I mean, what's the catch? do they screenshot the end scoreboard "bruh look at muh killz muh K/D" and most times they're people rep20+. When you think they know Dominion....Originally Posted by CandleInTheDark Go to original post
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Wow a thread about valk being op XD.
Made my day. I guess valk belongs to the weakest characters ingame actually.
I played her to Rep 28 now and l still have to say, that her kit is to weak...
Very predictable...
I have to do a real dance to at least get a light or a gb through my enemy...
She got no engage cuz its a gb on block. Everything is punished with a gb and the the light light heavy combo is basicly a free lightparry so it's not available...
Sweep only works as an oos punisher.
Basicly if anybody would ask me what the best way of playing valk is I would das he should start a glad....
In 4v4 you are a shieldbash and sweep spamming machine.
