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In order by faction
Warden: literally a guessing game. Is he going to guard break you? Or is he going to bash you and get free hits? If you dash, he can guard break you. If you wait for the guard break, he bashes you. Warden takes full control of the fight with that mechanic alone.
Conquerer: blocks your attack, then counter attacks. Not so bad
Peacekeeper: can't be guard broken when she dashes. Peacekeeper has a move that can't be punished. If an opponent dashes so much, you normally guardbreak them just to counter it. Nope. Not peacekeeper. She says f*ck you then hits you with the one-two then dashes again.
Lawbringer: all he can do is fish for long-range heavy attacks and guard breaks. In a nutshell, if your opponent is too fast, the other thing he does and block an attack, hit me with some weak light attack, then wait again.
Raider: his only redeeming quality is his unblockable. He can cancel it, chain it into generic combos, and when he guard breaks. He doesn't compare as much as the other vanguards.
Warlord: his head butt is the most dominant move yet. Because any other shove will get negated by it. If I'm talking fair, it should be whoevers faster, not warlords only, since that's the move he uses to engage most.
Berserker: the one that spams most. Berserker doesn't get punished for spamming his mixed light and heavy attacks and he still has that assassin passive that can counter any attack he dodges succefully into. Basically, if you think a berserker is an _actual_ good berserker, it's because he/she is probably cancelling attacks and actually dodging you instead of the usual
Valkyrie: our little speed demon. Valkyrie attacks as fast as orochi can and she uses it in her generic combo (light, light, trip, heavy, light, shield bash, trip, heavy, etc). Sure, you can dash back, but when you're against the wall, what then?
Kensei: the one that cancels attacks a lot. Kensei seems to be one of the fairer people in this game, only because both new and old kensei users can use the mechanics in their own way. He can harass, trick, and even blind his opponent to deal heavy damage, but sadly, it doesn't compare to other heroes.
Shugoki: you know the one that's headbutts you every time he hits you? That's him. All he does is purposely trade attacks with you to blind you and harass your stamina bar. And every time he guard breaks you, he'll probably throw you into the wall and do that grab move the deals heavy damage and heals him. Basically, he really just takes your time and gives you frustration for free and the words echoing in your head "here it come again".
Orochi: he just sits there tries to do the coolest sh*t. He may seem agile, but it doesn't get him very far. All he can do is wait for his opponent to mess up then he can punish them. Normally that would be the lawbringers job, but instead orochi's the one waiting for the opponent to move.
Nobushi: nobushi is the trickiest of them all, but she's very immobile. Sure, the heavy heroes are also immobile, but what they lack in speed, they gain in strength. Nobushi' play style gets very boring very quickly since most of your attacks can be countered after the first swing. When she dashes, you know you should block in the direction the correlates with her dash attack (she isn't _just_ going to dash, let's be real), All of her engages are just fishing for the first two light attacks, and it sucks just being countered by all these overwhelming heroes and their cheesy _unique_ abilities and passives. Even nobushi's abilities in 4v4s aren't unique wtf.
I won't lie, I was mad at the game when I first made this post, but knowing that I could list almost all the problems with each individual hero in this game... it makes me sad. I listed all of this as a buyer when Ubisoft could've fixed all this within the last however many patches as a creator. Whatever. People might not read this anyways. Make more bounties for brawls and duels *******it.
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Almost everything you say is wrong.
1. With warden you are kinder right, but this counts only for shoulderbash spammer, more annoying is his nearly instant zone and his fast top light, this means you are unsafe from to sides.
2. Conqu, is weird to discribe. He is ok but at the same time not.
He has a damn strong defense but a very low offensive, and with the current defensive meta he has it very hard against everyone.
In my opinion his charge attack could really benefit from Hyperarmor.
3. PK dash is sure strong and annoying if the just spam dash and light attacks.
But GB her while she is dashing isn't that hard, and you can attack her instead, attacks can punish dashspammer aswell.
4. Never saw a Lawbringer who plays like that, most of the time they are shovel to much. (similar to warden)
I think the damn hyperarmor on the shovel needs to go, this would balance this mover. Because currently LB can just shovel into every attack without trading dmg and getting a big advantage.
5. Raider just needs something better from his GB, but a save heavy would be to much (side heavy 40 and top 45 dmg) this is very high dmg for a GB. If his Zone would be safe after a GB it would be enough.
But currently raider is good balanced, he is just hard to master.
And if you say: "ohh raider is low tier", yes maybe but this is because he is a fair char.
The tier is something only some ppl decide, and the rest are agree or not, i fought some really strong Raider.
6. Since the headbutt nerf i don't have that much of a problem with headbutts, sure they are still really fast.
The only thing it could need would be a legit punish if it misses.
But still a Warlord is damn strong because he has a wide range of tools he can successfully use.
Making shovel faster? are you crazy?
7 Berserk not punished for his infinit chain? Are you somehow from another dimension? Is there where you come from the the meta a offensive one?
All attacks of the berserker are quite easy to parry and if you wanna stop the "spam" also his main attack, just block the lights if you are bad in parry.
And yes a good berserker does faint, because this is currently the only way to play him.
Berserk needs some "buffs" in form of adujstments.
8. Valk and speed demon ? You mistake her for the PK
Her legsweep is very easy do dodge to any sides, if you are really good you can dodge into the attack and it would still miss. After you dodged it easy peasy cheesy lemon squeeze GB her or hit with something else. (and i am tallking about consol - so pc must me much more easy)
9. Yes, Kensei is quite good balanced, and if you are good with him he has a good chance against every char.
He can't be compared to to Top (unfair) tiers, yes because he doesn't have that strong tools like a warden or warlord, or the unfair speed and bleed of a PK.
10. Shugoki is fine.
What you are saying are not the main problem of shugoki, it is his playstyle, he is made to trade!!!
His Oni-charge was nerfed really hard. I do think he needs a small balance, the Oni-charge should at least hit a enemy against a wall for a free light.
But his headbutts are really draining to much stamina.
11. Orochi is fine.
You are saying exactly that how he is meant to be xD. Orochi is a COUNTER ATTACKEr.
12. Nobushi - can't say that much about her.
But i know that her bleed is very strong, and she is quite fast.
I would need to play her abit to say more about her.
