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    GB Beyond Heavy Startup

    Just lost a round of AI elimination due to getting GB well beyond what should have been the window to GB. Either the Lawbringer has larger than average vulnerability windows during heavy startup, or the AI be cheatin'.
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    I have said this before and its true. The AI do not follow the game rules. They do impossible things.

    Sometimes ive seen it happen in pvp but its random. Against AI it is consistent that they break the rules. Ive been GBed mid chain attack, and even mid unblockable finisher.
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    Starting with the last patch I noticed being guardbroken by AI during regular and unblockable attacks on a regular basis up to several times per battle. (PC, raider and lawbringer experience)
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    Originally Posted by KaoticUprising Go to original post
    I have said this before and its true. The AI do not follow the game rules. They do impossible things.

    Sometimes ive seen it happen in pvp but its random. Against AI it is consistent that they break the rules. Ive been GBed mid chain attack, and even mid unblockable finisher.
    Happens a lot of times even on pvp.

    Lost the count of the times i got guardbroken mid heavy attack. Sometimes even at the very end of the attack. I suppose its p2p magic

    Bots just play their own game, they don't follow the rules, they make them.
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    Originally Posted by Felis_Menari Go to original post
    Just lost a round of AI elimination due to getting GB well beyond what should have been the window to GB. Either the Lawbringer has larger than average vulnerability windows during heavy startup, or the AI be cheatin'.
    You're just noticing this now?

    This is one of the issues that tilts me the most when I play LB. Time and time again, I get GB when I'm almost mid-swing with my heavy attack. Yet I'm unable to do the same to other heroes, unless it's at the very beginning of the attack animation. Even then it still seems to be hit or miss. It's beyond frustrating, I've even been guard broken multiple times during my unblockable.

    It's not just an AI issue.
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    Dangit. I think the bots need another spanking.

    In all seriousness though, if you saved a clip of the AI misbehaving, send it our way (support), so we can look into it.

    *Edit - or even if it's not against AI, and against regular players - if the GB window is off, or not working as it should - send it over to support as well!
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    Originally Posted by UbiNoty Go to original post
    Dangit. I think the bots need another spanking.

    In all seriousness though, if you saved a clip of the AI misbehaving, send it our way (support), so we can look into it.

    *Edit - or even if it's not against AI, and against regular players - if the GB window is off, or not working as it should - send it over to support as well!
    No dice. I tried recording clips before,but I get error messages every, bloody, time. Wish I did, to obviously illustrate the problem. But at least others here know that shenanigans are indeed afoot.

    @Dizzy4213: I actually never seen cheat-like behavior from the AI until today; I guess I was just lucky to have gone this long without experiencing the cheesing AI.
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    Originally Posted by Felis_Menari Go to original post
    No dice. I tried recording clips before,but I get error messages every, bloody, time. Wish I did, to obviously illustrate the problem. But at least others here know that shenanigans are indeed afoot.

    @Dizzy4213: I actually never seen cheat-like behavior from the AI until today; I guess I was just lucky to have gone this long without experiencing the cheesing AI.
    Oh, are you on XB1? We turned off DVR/Beam-streaming to try to improve stability so that may be why. I'll still inquire with the team about it though.
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    Originally Posted by Felis_Menari Go to original post
    @Dizzy4213: I actually never seen cheat-like behavior from the AI until today; I guess I was just lucky to have gone this long without experiencing the cheesing AI.
    It's not a cheat but an issue with LB himself. That's why I said it's not an AI issue. This happens pretty frequently in PvP matches too. I don't know what it is, but I always get guard broken mid-swing whenever I'm playing LB. I try and GB Warden's top heavy which is also pretty slow, and I just bounce off. Something isn't quite right.
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    Originally Posted by Dizzy4213 Go to original post
    It's not a cheat but an issue with LB himself. That's why I said it's not an AI issue. This happens pretty frequently in PvP matches too. I don't know what it is, but I always get guard broken mid-swing whenever I'm playing LB. I try and GB Warden's top heavy which is also pretty slow, and I just bounce off. Something isn't quite right.
    Hm, sounds like we'll probably want to dig a bit more into this. Definitely make a report to support and I'll bring it up as well.
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