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  1. #31
    Originally Posted by S0Mi_xD Go to original post
    At first get better, valk is a beast, you just need to parry > gb > forwardthrow > combo to deal safe 60 dmg. This works with any parry.
    This video is the best example that Rep doesn't say much.

    A wallcombo does give the most char hight dmg output.

    And top heavy is safe ONLY after a light parry, not after heavy parry.
    thank for pointing this out no one know about it.there is no tuto anywhere on the internet .i dont even think tru3talent showed it yet

    the only thing basic valk does is ligth+light+spear sweep + heavy into SB mess up with some GB.Watch all my vids or just get the f*ck out
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  2. #32
    Originally Posted by bmason1000 Go to original post
    Are you on the gamefaqs FH board at all? There's a fairly active and barely competitive ladder over there, real good group of dudes, lots of fun. Anyone not involved or unaware, feel free to come join us! Right now there's only two garbage berserkers wasting our time and getting trashed, how we both made it in to the top five i have no idea. We could always use more players over there so if anyone's down, come on over.

    In relevance to this actual thread, the matches are best of 9 duels. great for really fine tuning techniques and strategies, might help us add to this conversation.
    i would be in if its on PC !!
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    Originally Posted by AKDagriZ Go to original post
    thank for pointing this out no one know about it.there is no tuto anywhere on the internet .i dont even think tru3talent showed it yet

    the only thing basic valk does is ligth+light+spear sweep + heavy into SB mess up with some GB.Watch all my vids or just get the f*ck out
    Are you stupid somehow?

    You try counter the arguments of the others in this thread about the top heavy.
    I counter your counter by saying that valk can combo her chains and its stronger than berserkers wallcombo, also i say nearly every hero has a strong wallcombo etc.

    And now you coming and wanna make me look like a smart as-s?

    So in your words.

    Thank you for pointing out about the top heavy, nobody knew about this, no berserker player, no person in the internet, something so basic like a wallcombo

    Berserker is only Light attacks, Feints and GB ooooh ....

    Pull yourself together....
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  4. #34
    Only thing "OP" about zerker is the ridiculously easy deflect that is far better than any other deflect. And it seems like his OOS punish is one of the best and easiest to pull off. Other than that, hes perfectly fine. The deflect still bugs me though...only assassin to have his deflect trigger automatically but lets not stop there, lets make it a free GB that centers around any damage in this game.
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  5. #35
    Originally Posted by Blasto95 Go to original post
    And it seems like his OOS punish is one of the best and easiest to pull off. Other than that, hes perfectly fine.
    It's the strongest OOS punish in the game, but it's also impossible to do against any halfway decent opponent since it requires you to GB them, and with no openers at all that's not gonna happen unless you play against idiots.
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  6. #36
    Originally Posted by SirCorrino Go to original post
    It's the strongest OOS punish in the game, but it's also impossible to do against any halfway decent opponent since it requires you to GB them, and with no openers at all that's not gonna happen unless you play against idiots.
    I mean no one has a GB that guaranteed so that is pretty irrelevant. The fact that its still possible and the best and pretty easy once you do land a GB is the "OP" part. Raider at least has to have the right stance and perfect timing.
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  7. #37
    The idea that a character with no openers, no unblockables, a set rhythm for every combo, and exactly one good punish is overpowered is hilarious, though not very much based in reality.
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    Originally Posted by Blasto95 Go to original post
    Only thing "OP" about zerker is the ridiculously easy deflect that is far better than any other deflect. And it seems like his OOS punish is one of the best and easiest to pull off. Other than that, hes perfectly fine. The deflect still bugs me though...only assassin to have his deflect trigger automatically but lets not stop there, lets make it a free GB that centers around any damage in this game.
    I wouldn't say it's a ridiculously easy deflect. Pretty high risk if you ask me, it's not a huge window and if you scuff it up you invariably end up with some metal embedded in you somewhere.
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  9. #39
    Originally Posted by G0RECH1LD Go to original post
    I wouldn't say it's a ridiculously easy deflect. Pretty high risk if you ask me, it's not a huge window and if you scuff it up you invariably end up with some metal embedded in you somewhere.

    Im not talking about actually pulling off the deflect. Thats the same for every assassin. Its after the fact. Orochi has some good options, but much more skill based and technical. PK has a pretty bad deflect. More often than not its a lot better to parry. Shinobis is decent I guess. Im not really sure with him. But Zerker....Deflect -> nothing....you already got a GB. Then free heavy. Every single assassin has to make an input, a decision as to what they want to do after deflecting. Zerker? Heres a free GB.
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    Originally Posted by Blasto95 Go to original post
    Im not talking about actually pulling off the deflect. Thats the same for every assassin. Its after the fact. Orochi has some good options, but much more skill based and technical. PK has a pretty bad deflect. More often than not its a lot better to parry. Shinobis is decent I guess. Im not really sure with him. But Zerker....Deflect -> nothing....you already got a GB. Then free heavy. Every single assassin has to make an input, a decision as to what they want to do after deflecting. Zerker? Heres a free GB.
    Dude... berserkers is the number 3 of all deflects, shinobi has the best defelct of all, Orochi is pretty good and PK is not that great.
    Take a look, here i po
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...in-Deflect-Bug

    Berserkers Deflect is pretty safe in 1v1, but if you are in a 1vX situation it is pretty ****ty because of this damn GB.
    You say it as if it happens instantly, but NO you need to go through the GB animation and start a throw, or start the really slow basic Heavy.
    If you get hit in this time, the deflect gives you ZERO NOTHING...
    At first play the berserker more then some matchen and try to use his deflect, after that you are free to judge it....

    Here take a look, this is a suggestion how i would rework berserkers Deflect:
    http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...0#post12701170
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