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  1. #21
    Ubi only Said That conq has only one strategy and they try to find more for him.
    That sounds for me that he don't get a buff, just more possibilities which could also punished by the opponent.
    So calm down guys.
    We fight only on the Battlefield.

    Sry for my crap English 💩
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  2. #22
    Originally Posted by SirFelix87 Go to original post
    It's funny how people consider conq even a DECENT class..

    His free guard brake is useless ( cand use a SINGLE heavy attack after it, is that slow )
    So every hero should have a garunteed heavy after a GB? You can still throw which causes damage with his feat or land a light to start infinite. Can't relate to you Conq skills.
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    Originally Posted by Yarzahn Go to original post
    They LITERALLY said he's in a less ideal spot and that he does well (on average, not necessarily at top play) because of a single good move in his whole kit, which good players can predict and counter.
    WHAT THE ****, people can't even understand english now? Please stop making dumb posts and look at the stream again, instead of spouting trash.

    I mean the devs were very clear when they talked about conqueror in the stream. Probably the hero they adressed more in-depth.
    If I recall that was a community rep not the developer. The dev said the conqs win/loss record shows hes top tier even tho he has one strategy. Now I didnt stick around for much after that but him saying that was enough for me.

    But ya buff him and make him more enjoyable. I will laugh and say I told you so when the nerf threads begin again.
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    Originally Posted by Joseph_2017 Go to original post
    So every hero should have a garunteed heavy after a GB? You can still throw which causes damage with his feat or land a light to start infinite. Can't relate to you Conq skills.
    Every hero has an option after a free guard brake. Conq has only light hit or a throw which is useless unless he has no stamina. That's all

    I have no idea what are you talking about, you clearly don't know how to parry or block then.
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    Originally Posted by SirFelix87 Go to original post
    Every hero has an option after a free guard brake. Conq has only light hit or a throw which is useless unless he has no stamina. That's all

    I have no idea what are you talking about, you clearly don't know how to parry or block then.
    Conq has a granted side heavy after a gb. Sometimes it gets buged thought, but in theory is granted. In fact, that with the fact that gets a granted gb after blocking a heavy is the onlything that saves him from being a TOTAL FAILURE.
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    Originally Posted by RatedChaotic Go to original post
    If I recall that was a community rep not the developer. The dev said the conqs win/loss record shows hes top tier even tho he has one strategy. Now I didnt stick around for much after that but him saying that was enough for me.

    But ya buff him and make him more enjoyable. I will laugh and say I told you so when the nerf threads begin again.
    Is not a matter of buffing him. That will not solve anything with conq, same as the nerf did not solve anything. What Ubisoft needs to do is to remake his moveset and habilities. In few words: Remake him as a character. No one with a bit of common sense would ask for a conq buff because we will return at his previous stage where he was a monster. But still, a monster with one only tech,

    He only stands as a +- viable character thanks to the defensive meta, but what will happen once ubi change that defenstive meta during S2?

    #SaveTheConqueror
    #DeusVult
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    Originally Posted by Joseph_2017 Go to original post
    Bad players good Conqs, good players bad Conqs whatever it all comes down to being familiar with your hero and skill. Here's another video of me taking on 3 different guys with a Conq, they can't all be bad right?

    https://youtu.be/Pv155Du5Phs

    And no I dont play Pc, thank God. That player base is miserable.
    Any decent player in that game would have parried your charged heavy in the beginning. Nobody of the Orochis in the enemy team even uses Side Dash Attack when they evade your Bash. Again, you pwned some Noobs, but that doesnt prove that Conq is in a good spot now. He can punish Noobs, for sure, but every decent player does that on any Character.

    Again, I have yet to face a Conq who beats me after I got the timing down on Bash Evade into Side Dash Attack. Conq is so predictable, I would say the most predictable Character at this moment.
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    Originally Posted by TheLastPandaa Go to original post
    Conq has a granted side heavy after a gb. Sometimes it gets buged thought, but in theory is granted. In fact, that with the fact that gets a granted gb after blocking a heavy is the onlything that saves him from being a TOTAL FAILURE.
    Yeah. And that's not even complete true. Because devs, in their amateur skills decided to make the conqerors parry with a back off animation thus in more 50% cases YOU CAN EVEN REACH THEM TO GUARD BRAKE THEM !

    Gotta love Ubisoft, worst gaming company... meh
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  9. #29
    Conqueror basically negates any decent mixups. The fact his guard is so op and you HAVE to respect it, means you must always attack only 2 open zones - meaning every single attack you do is truly a 50/50 chance you can continue a combo.

    If you forget for even a second where his original block was and you try to mix him up and swing at it, all you do is screw yourself over, with absolutely no input from the conq except existing. He can literally cancel your combo because either one of you were forgetful, lol.

    That's really strong. I'm not sure if it's "can't guarantee an execute in any situation no matter what" strong, but it is ridiculous. I reallllly hate fighting him, because he can have less than 50 IQ and still come out on top in trades or avoiding pressure, so when a conq player is actually smart at all, it's hell trying to deal meaningful damage. Getting shield bash mixup'd against a wall is probably one of the most frustrating things in the game, because it takes so long to animate once it start hitting you and you literally can't do anything about it except in very limited windows.

    People who say he's inherently weak, I am suspicious they just don't understand the game that well. He does require a really high skill ceiling to close out fights - because he lacks options to guarantee damage, much like Raider - so obviously that is a sore point in a game based on closing out a fight.

    But he is very strong. A few tweaks would make him magic, and frankly, probably over the top at that point.

    Emote game on point, too.
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  10. #30
    This thread is adorable lol


    Reminds me of the old "Lawbringer is totes fine don't buff him" threads from the Beta when EVERYONE knew the guy was underpowered as hell, but some people STILL couldn't handle him so CLEARLY he was OP right? Clearly it wasn't that THEY were bad at the game. It just meant the class was OP and needed nerfed


    Good times lol
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