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[Joseph_2017]

Before I start I'll say that I'm a 5/105 Conqueror with an overall KD of 2.36 and win/loss of 65.02%. (Which all I play are team based modes and are always teamed up with randoms).

Lately I've heard a lot of complaining from the community about how the Conq is a push over. And usually if enough people complain, Ubisoft will react to the whines and groans of the FH forums. I'm not totally against this but I just don't believe that he needs a buff.

Hopefully this thread will encourage other players to adapt to the Conqueror as I believe this hero can take on anything when played right, believe me.

Now I should explain what I believe his pros and cons are.

Pros:
Excellent normal blocks since they can stop almost every combo. Pretty much like a combo breaker.

Heal block feat is underrated and when used right you'll understand why this guy is a tank.

Shield bash, very effective move used to stop unblockables or even neutralize a revenge mode foe by putting some space between you and your opponent.

Infinite chain, another underrated move. I find this effective for opponents who try to flee or to help a teammate that's being attacked with revenge since you can land quite a bit of hits quickly. It also catches opponents off guard when they don't expect it.

Delayed Heavys, dosent sound like a pro but very effective while switching targets in a 4v4 mode.

Running shield bash, garunteed free heavy when landed and also a great move to disable a for.

Wind up attack, very hard to use but brutal in 4v4. My Conq and a Orochi actually 2 hitted a Valk once and it was hilarious. He went for a GB and we both went in at the same time with the overhead. Wow! She said.

Shield basher, dosent seem like a lot of damage but it adds up with decent mixups such as throws and bashes.

Cons:
I think his Lvl 1 & 4 feats can use some improvements but not a must.

Don't really know any others.


So one complaint I've heard was he wasn't able to get a GB after a bash. That's correct and let it be, let the LB play like the LB and leave the Conqueror out of his style please. Another complaint is he's too easily parried, learn to use his bash and lights they are useful. Throw your opponent off guard with a random raw bash or a quick slap.

So Ubi, this is from a guy who loves your game and actually gets to know the hero's the way they were meant to be played and don't put a LB case on the Conq, he's fine.

I'll leave you guys off with a video I made last night, a Skirmish round with My Conq and another decent Conq. It just proves that you have a balance of being familiar with the hero and skill.

Thanks.

WARNING: Ragequitting occurs.


https://youtu.be/3OeFgEmiY84

[TheLastPandaa]

Before I start I'll say that I'm a 5/105 Conqueror with an overall KD of 2.36 and win/loss of 65.02%. (Which all I play are team based modes and are always teamed up with randoms).

Lately I've heard a lot of complaining from the community about how the Conq is a push over. And usually if enough people complain, Ubisoft will react to the whines and groans of the FH forums. I'm not totally against this but I just don't believe that he needs a buff.

Hopefully this thread will encourage other players to adapt to the Conqueror as I believe this hero can take on anything when played right, believe me.

Now I should explain what I believe his pros and cons are.

Pros:
Excellent normal blocks since they can stop almost every combo. Pretty much like a combo breaker.

Heal block feat is underrated and when used right you'll understand why this guy is a tank.

Shield bash, very effective move used to stop unblockables or even neutralize a revenge mode foe by putting some space between you and your opponent.

Infinite chain, another underrated move. I find this effective for opponents who try to flee or to help a teammate that's being attacked with revenge since you can land quite a bit of hits quickly. It also catches opponents off guard when they don't expect it.

Delayed Heavys, dosent sound like a pro but very effective while switching targets in a 4v4 mode.

Running shield bash, garunteed free heavy when landed and also a great move to disable a for.

Wind up attack, very hard to use but brutal in 4v4. My Conq and a Orochi actually 2 hitted a Valk once and it was hilarious. He went for a GB and we both went in at the same time with the overhead. Wow! She said.

Shield basher, dosent seem like a lot of damage but it adds up with decent mixups such as throws and bashes.

Cons:
I think his Lvl 1 & 4 feats can use some improvements but not a must.

Don't really know any others.


So one complaint I've heard was he wasn't able to get a GB after a bash. That's correct and let it be, let the LB play like the LB and leave the Conqueror out of his style please. Another complaint is he's too easily parried, learn to use his bash and lights they are useful. Throw your opponent off guard with a random raw bash or a quick slap.

So Ubi, this is from a guy who loves your game and actually gets to know the hero's the way they were meant to be played and don't put a LB case on the Conq, he's fine.

I'll leave you guys off with a video I made last night, a Skirmish round with My Conq and another decent Conq. It just proves that you have a balance of being familiar with the hero and skill.

Thanks.

WARNING: Ragequitting occurs.


https://youtu.be/3OeFgEmiY84

Ahhhh that explains a lot.

[berserker7331]

Try doing duel mode or brawl, maybe you have not tried conqueror during his glory days in the previous patch?

[RatedChaotic]

Dev said hes top tier. His overall win/loss proves it even tho he doesnt have much. Pretty much what the devs said when a question was asked about buffing/fixing the Conq.

Can we see that scrub video of those so called best Conq players saying the Conq is dead, Panda?....I wanna laugh at their ignorance again. You know since the devs have the real numbers and that video was proved wrong with this weeks Warriors Den.

BTW my point was confirmed. Only the devs have the real numbers. Not the players.

[Joseph_2017]

Try doing duel mode or brawl, maybe you have not tried conqueror during his glory days in the previous patch?

Yes I have, and I also duel occasionally. Most of the time they are close and seem fair.

[TheLastPandaa]

Dev said hes top tier. His win/loss proves it even tho he doesnt have much. Can we see that scrub video of those so called best Conq players saying the Conq is dead, Panda?....I wanna laugh at their ignorance again. You know since the devs have the real numbers and that video was proved wrong with this weeks Warriors Den.

Rated cahotic, for some reason every time you write on this forum i just can read: IA player, IA player, IA player, IA player, IA player, IA player,

Even when i proved you with videos how easy is to punish a conqueror you still making excuses to justify your incompetence as a player.Oh! and now we talk about videos... Im still waiting for your video showing how you can not light atack after side dodging the conqueror SB. I think that video was going to be your ultimate prove under the argument of "Like i and my son are not good enought to punish a conqueror Sb, no one in this world can".

Simply ridiculous.

Oh btw, did you not read the last declarations about the Conqueror made after the warriors den?

Don't worry! we won't let him be forgotten!

With all the preparations for s2 coming up fast, we may not have any updates for you all soon about our plans for good old conq, but the team does know that he's in a less-than-ideal spot at the moment.
Once we have more solid plans in place we'll update you all then.

Thanks for the feedback guys. We've already passed along some of your thoughts on the current state of conqueror to the team, and while I can't say what their plans are for him at the moment - we're definitely very aware that we'll need to take another good look at him.

Here are the links:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-Its-sad/page3
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...nqueror-issues

Edit to add: The devs also believed (acording to their data) that the problem with the PKs was her side dodge hits, not her light atack spam. Remember how that went?

[RatedChaotic]

You can think whatever you like about me dude. AI player or whatever. Your stupidity. You quoted UBI Noty but not the developer? lmao

Btw I do pvp. I just dont use matchmaker genius. I have nothing to prove. I'm not a great player. I have more fun vs ai when friends are offline than playing that connection riddled spam fest you all think is pvp.

[dekot11]

W/L numbers and data don't help much. A character can be a noob-stomper and still not be viable at higher skill levels.

[Joseph_2017]

Ahhhh that explains a lot.

Ahhh I see what you did there, yeah my KD and Win isn't pro but I forgot to mention I have a overall rep of 24. So I like to experiment.

7 Shugoki
5 Conq
3 Raider
3 Kensei
3 Orochi
3 Nobushi

So with that being said my stats are not only based on the Conq. And if they were I'm sure they would be significantly higher.

What the Conq lacks in duels makes up in team support. There's nothing wrong with that, don't forget "Strong Defense" is literally stated under his name.

[RatedChaotic]

Panda thinks he knows it all and uses insults to push his arguments. Reminds me of my son. Grow up. He cant even remember what video I was going to post.