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Lawbringer : need to be nerfed ...a lot of thread allready been started about this ... a lot debate too ... don't really need to say why !
Valkirye : need to be nerfed ... she is just too fast ... it's ridiculous ... strong , good defensive stance cancelable into dodge or top light or push to knocked you on your *** once your grounde she throw you heavy light sweep your grounded again and again ...just stupid
Warlord : need to be nerfed ... i think everyone is ok with this .. don't even need to talk about it lol
Warden : is ok !
berzerker: is ok
nobushi :is ok
orochi: is ok
shugoki: is ok
Kensei : is ok
Peacekeeper : need to be buffed : first when the game came out peacekeeper was the faster because she was SUPPOSED to be the faster ...but she got super nerfed to the ground and now every character is faster than her ...test it ..face to face with a friend against any others warrior .. at go throw light at the same time ..your opponent will always hit you first ... she is so slow that its probably the only charachter thats i get parry on light attack !
zone attack got a damage nerfed AND a speed nerfed .... you can now parry her zone attack so easyly ... while warden zone atk coming so fast that if you parry it it'S just pure luck !
when game came out her 3 stab was taking out half of opponent life ... a bit much but now it only take 1 bars out !
she don't have a lot of opponer you can just wait for the ennemy to atk and dodge + heavy-light but its not a big pusnishment since it only take one bars of life out and sometime you wait till the opponent throw a toplight atk you dodge + heavy and he still got time to parry it !! .like wtf
you can try to guardbreak but its so obvious and guardbreak is so easyly counterable now that you lucky if it work .. and even if its work the best you can do is 3 stab ... = 1 bar of damage ... 0 damage to a warden and lets be honest 1 bar is absolutely nothing to a Lawbringer or a tank .... anyway they don't give a **** they got this feats thats let them heal themself !! wow
so the 3 stab shoulb be rebuff a little because it's nothing compare to nobushi guardbreaking + top heavy .. or kensei push to wall + top heavy .. or berzerker guardbreak push to wall + top heavy or warlord guardbreak + top heavy ect can continue like this for long ...
so at least if you don't want to buffed 3 stab increase top heavy speed so peacekeeper be allowed to do it too like evryone else .. cannot be more fair !!!
Conqueror : not sure about him ....
Raider : need both ....(no mather what you do to open your opponent guard .. like a guardbreak , push him on the wall knee to the face ect ...nex hit will allways be blockable ... so he need an effective openner BUT nerfed the amount of Damage his Heavy does ! )
edit : he also got the easyest zone to parry !
Also rebuff :Revenge mode a little !
BUT : reduced the amount of revenge gain in 1v1
(for exemple .. today was doing 1v1 as peacekeeper vs Lawbringer ...the LB got his revenge twice in the same 1v1 fight ... and i never get it until time run out !! we where the 2 last one alive in a elimination match .... and he kept healing himselft with his feat and staying on the shield buff while fighting. .. i was allways near to kill him that he heal take the buffed and because of my bleed gain revenge ... while i can't gain revenge because as a pk i tend more to dodge/deflect than blocking/parry or i cant just let the opponent hit me and heal to gain revenge while keeping my life full !! ... so ..UNFAIR !!! )
4v4 elimination : it's ok that the buff take 20 sec to appear but it's now as long to take it as in skirmish ... TOO LONG ...
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ok sherlock instead of being an ******* why don't you just tell us what does kensei need and why all the reason i mention for pk's buff are not good !!Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
because i met a lot of good kensei and by seiing them play i didn't feel like they need a buffed !!!
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Quite simple, two words: def meta. Once it is fixed, Raider and kensei will have an easier time. And if it is not enough, they will get buff, but their main problem is def meta.
As for PK, it does not need buff for christ's sake. If anything, it would need a nerf on, its damage of light attack (-5 or -10% will be fine for starter).
Did you even look at dev's stream and check win rate of each class?
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first of all are you on pc or console !!Originally Posted by Specialkha Go to original post
second one : did you just read all my reason for a little buff or you just stop at '' pk need a buff''
and if you want to nerf it for the fourth time just fkn remove it from the game wtf .... has allready had 3 fkn nerfed still not enought for you .. you clearly not playing assasin's !!! i can allready ear you crying for shinobi's nerf !! loll xD
and i know about the def meta that's why i said kensei is ok !
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So? How many nerfs did the Warlord get? How many nerfs has the Valk get since the "alpha".. have you ever played her? You need those "op" mixups cuz you need a lot of them to kill one f**king enemy its much easier to get a kill with PK then with Valk.. 1 mistake and your life drops so fast that you think "lol he only gave me 2 hits and im near dead while i was using 10 combos and he still have 50% hp"Originally Posted by Maxime_Qc- Go to original post
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Do you actually play all the classes? I imagine everybody's opinion on what needs buffing or nerfing varies depending on what class they play.
Here's a Berserker's perspective;
Lawbringer: He needed a buff, but I think Ubi went a little bit overboard. Players of LB seem to spam shove > light attack a lot now, which is boring. Needs toning down a little.
Valkyrie: Seems OK to me. Frustrating to fight, sure, but OK.
Warlord: Could do with a bit of a nerf. I struggle with shield users though, so could be biased. They seem to do a hell of a lot of damage for a class with amazing defensive capability.
Warden: Seems to me they need a nerf. They parry everything I throw at them and they're pretty tough. They do good damage. The game is also saturated with them.
Berzerker: I do very well as Berserker in 4v4 game modes, and am approaching a 3:1 KD ratio, which I suppose is pretty good. However, most people who play these game modes are morons. As soon as a I enter duels and brawls with serious players, I struggle a lot more. I do pretty well against Orochi, PK and Nobushi. Any Warlord, Warden, Conquerer or Valkyrie who knows what they're doing won't let me get a single kill. Kensei, Shugoki, Raider and Lawbringer are beatable, but still a struggle. Berserker has great damage, speed and is fun to play, but needs a way to open players defences up more effectively if they're to be viable for competitive play.
Nobushi: Seems like they could do with a little buff. I duelled for an hour or more with a skilled Nobushi recently and it was very enjoyable, challenging but I won most matches.
Orochi: Seems OK now. The game is still saturated with them. Duels seem fairly 50/50 to me so cant complain.
Shugoki: Why anyone would play this boring, obese mess is a mystery to me. They hit like a truck but they're just as slow. Seems fine to me, if you dig that kinda thing.
Kensei: Seems fairly balanced to me. They kill me often but they have the range that I lack.
Peacekeeper: Fine now.
Raider: Needs a bit of a buff. Nobody plays them. Clearly something needs to be done here.
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......YOU CAN PARRY WITH ALL HERO, stop to nerf the Warden lolOriginally Posted by G0RECH1LD Go to original post
