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[Charmzzz]

As I seed parry the heavy and puff the hyperarmor is gone, its one of the slowest in the game , now superior block, common you are a peacekeeper every time when a WL manage to do this you will probably block that, its difficult as **** to make it properly, usually its not worth it, full block stance - you cant do anything to you as long as you are prepared for the heavy, the spam- doge or just wait, he needs to hit you 3 times to take one bar of your health, feats- and what would you want to see in his feats? shugos ,,Rock Steady" or ,,Hard to kill"? Or maybe conq ,,heal on block"? I dont think so. throw- its difficult to throw properly, expect when you are on a brig then you so or so by thrown off. Heavy hitting- you are kidding right? he hitts as as all of the heavy classes, shugo still hilts harder. The heavy and the light after a parry are not guarantee, after a gb the top heavy is because, I think all expect pk, heave a guarantee heavy. Best moveset? Nope, the best moveset hes the cent in gank situations. An the last think ,,over the top" ekm *fanfare* NO. it i think that was everything when not I'm sure you will find it.

Your argumentation... Well, tell me then, how come WL wins almost every tournament? And how come WL is considered by all the pro gamers as the best hero in the game? How come he is even YOUR best hero statswise by a big percentage? https://fhtracker.com/profile/pc/Hiyaldur/heroes

But I will go through your arguments:
It is easy to say "parry the heavy", but that fits to every other character. Still, WL has something special: hyperarmor on heavy startup. Means I cannot interrupt him with a light or gb, but I can vs most other heroes.
Do you know how superior block works? He can counterattack on accident with a light... Even if the opponent uses a heavy.
Full Block Stance - the ultimate turtle move - there is literally NOTHING a PK or Zerker or Orochi etc can do. The only "counterplay" are unblockables or heavy softfeints into GB. He can just sit and wait for his teammates to show up...
And what about "needs to hit me 3 times for one bar"? What are you talking about? Maybe have a look here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Kgc/edit#gid=0

Zone: 25 dmg which is 3rd best in the game, Nobushi and Raider deal more, but WL Zone is much faster
Light: 15 top, 12 side - average. PK, Orochi and Nobushi lead here with 17-18. Which is 2-3 more...
Heavy: 30-35, this is above average plus he gets the hyperarmor ON EVERY heavy

Then comes the Headbutt. Spammable, low stamina cost, guaranteed damage. Who cares how much damage it deals, it is GUARANTEED. No other character has this anymore.

7m throw (down from 10!!). Best in the game together with Raider stampede (which gets nerfed immediately after the overbuff).

Now feats, do you REALLY compare ONE feat of some other hero to the 4-passive-monster-combo of the Warlord? Again, he gets everything without any downside:
- passive 15% damage increase on feat level ONE -> this pushes his damage values over the top
- passive 25% damage reduction on feat level two -> got nerfed to a 3 sec cooldown, but as he is the second best turtle in the game he does not care. get a hit, turtle up.
- +35 HP on feat level three -> Starts with 140, now he has 175 HP for the rest of the game. Oh wait, he has already feat level two: around 219 effective HP now. In comparison: the Shugoki and Lawbringer have 160 / 150 HP, rest of the roster is 120-140 HP. Sooo, WL now overtops every other hero BY FAR. Best tank in the game.
- WL gets feat level four? Have fun, he will get an Auto-Revive if you manage to kill this 219 HP monster

Throw is difficult? You cant be serious. The amount of ledges and spikes in every map is ridiculous.

Best moveset on a single hero? Oh yes sir. Cent is good in ganking, but WL is not far behind. WL can just do the running charge at you, wall stagger, guaranteed side heavy. Ok, Cent is a CC spammer, but the hyperarmor on heavies for the WL prevent him from being interrupted by zone attacks (which is the best move in outnumbered situations).

[Tyrjo]

So, your Peacekeeper crusade against the Warlord continues? Despite every nerf he has received over the last months, you still aren't happy your assassin has trouble against a heavy.

The only thing I think should be changed is when a Warlord goes full block he shouldn't be able to CGB.

[Charmzzz]

So, your Peacekeeper crusade against the Warlord continues? Despite every nerf he has received over the last months, you still aren't happy your assassin has trouble against a heavy.

The only thing I think should be changed is when a Warlord goes full block he shouldn't be able to CGB.

Which Character I am playing is not relevant, I would point out the same things if I would main a different one. And, to be honest, I have more trouble with other Assassins than any other class because of the reflex guard.

WL just has all tools to be the perfect turtle which bites your fingers off...

[Tyrjo]

Defensive meta announcement today on the Warriors den. Will be interesting to say the least, and will probably hit the Warlord class the hardest.

[Hiyaldur]

ok after the patch we can talk again too this time gl hf