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Who would have guessed, Metal4.theCore is a Warlord Main. ^^
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Still waiting for some arguments why Warlord SHOULD have all these feats combined, not "but Hero X has Y" as an argument. Go ahead Metal. Why does Warlord have to keep all these feats combined with his other tools? He is Top Tier together with Warden, PK a little bit behind them. Now it is your turn.
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active feats can be used like what 2 times a round? wherea a passive 15% damage increase, a whooping 25% damage reduction, and a insane +35HP increase is active the whole game. I would trade my active feats for those passives in an instant.
lol now that i think about it warlord has once though as Nails is active even MORE HP than Shugoki but doesnt have the 25% damage panalty for losing his hyperarmor. Instead he has hyperarmor on ALL his Heavy Attacks AND has a constant 25% more defence the whole time.
Lets see 140 base HP + 35 HP increase = 175 HP in Total.
Now he can take 25% more damage 175*1.25 = around 219.
So in order to take out 1 Warlord you need to dish out roughly 219 damage.
ofcourse thats not a 100% accurate represantation but ....
WOW that is kinda Insane if you just take the numbers into consideration.
so id say its a no brainer to trade the arrow,crossbow,kunai against that kind of Healthpool.
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I will give my opinion from a dueling perspective:
Wl is one of the best characters of the game because he has many tools to use during a fight, but i dont think he is OP. All he does is easily countered. Even if hits hits you with his Hb that only grants him a light atack that is weaker than a normal light and does almost no dmg. He is tanky and a slow character that needs to be very close to you to be efective and about his throw distance... well i admit that is too much because he can throw you in any direction, but countering a GB is one of the easyest things to do in this game so i do not see a real problem with that either.
Now, about WL on 4vs4 modes... I just can say that if you see decent player (not even a skilled one) coming at you with a 108 WL with all his pasive perks active the best thing to do is...
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Ofc he is Top Tier in my eyes he is very well balanced.. im sure we all agree that the current turtle meta is making him a beast !! If they fix parry so you cant get GB anymore it will be harder to play Warlord cuz you cant throw People off every cliff just with a Parry -> GB but back to the Topic.. All of his feats are only usefull if you can play Warlord.. wow you can deal 15% more dmg.. or take more dmg or even have more HP if you play like crap you cant do ****.. if you play a Lawbringer / Valk / Orochi and use the Bombs / Bows / Spears everything you can throw.. you can easy kill anyone who trys to f**k with you.. everytime i play Valk and end up in an 1vsX i use my revenge and my spear will 1 SHOT someone.. no matter what same is true for catapult, bombs and bows.. every Hero has Feats that suits him and you realy wanna tell me that a conq with his "heal blocks" "catapult" "Shield bashdmg" and "bombs" isnt better then a Warlord? I DONT THINK SO!!!!Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
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If you shoot people they can be revived. You cannot revive ledged or executed (easy to do cause of heavy hyperarmor) people. Don't you see the difference?Originally Posted by Metal4.theCore Go to original post
Conq? He is Mid-Top-Tier, too, but this Topic is NOT about the Conq. It is about the Warlord. So stop defending your Main by comparing it to one special other case of good feat combination. And even that comparison is a joke, Conq's have not the massive amount of tools that a Warlord has by any means.
Warlord with 15% dmg increase, 25% defense increase, more HP and a Revive can kill you faster and safer than a Conq with Heal-Blocks (no dmg while only blocking), catapult (can be used max. twice a match), shield bash damage (seriously? so easy to dodge...) and bombs (can be used 3-4 times a match max.). You even did not mention that the Conq has to CHOOSE between some good feats. He can't take Heal-Block AND Bombs. But Warlord, nah, he can just take all the good stuff at once.
Your argumentation is that of a clueless guy defending his Main because he rocks with him. No wonder pal... I never criticized the Nerfs for my Main (PK), and I am doing even better on her than before the Nerfs to ZA and Light Spam. It was OP in the beginning and got legitimately nerfed. Same thing with Warlord, but you want to keep your OPness.
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Because he is a tank and should have tanky feats. Now the real question is why does PK have the same damage reduction feat as Warlord as an Assassin? That's what makes no sense.Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
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Ah yeah, you are right. But 15% Damage Buff as Feat Level 1 on A TANK with 219 health pool at Feat Level 3 or even 438 health pool at Feat Level 4???Originally Posted by SirCorrino Go to original post
You compare that to a PK at 120*1.25 = 150 health pool? And PK has to sacrifice Revenge Attacks for it, cannot take a Feat Level 1 which gives him combat advantage, Feat lvl 3 and 4 are only situational or temporal buffs.
Ah, I see, again a Warlord Main defending his Character by comparing ONE feat in his full list of passive super feats to ONE other characters ONLY good passive feat. https://fhtracker.com/profile/psn/SirCorrino/heroes
So when do I get to see REAL arguments why a Tank should have passive damage+, passive defense+, an increased health pool AND a second life IN ONE BUILD?
Edit: I would trade the tanky passive on my PK without thinking about it for the 15% damage increase Feat on lvl 1! Then I could take Revenge Attacks Feat lvl 2 and beat Warlords with 438 health pool...
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Wow the rage is strong with this one.. like i told you all of these Warlord feats are only good if you know how to play him.. if you play like crap it doesnt matter.
long story short.. why should they give the Warlord more "offensive" skills? i mean okay take away his 15% dmg buff.. i dont care rly but as Warlord you dont have much options which feats you wanna use instead cuz they are all crap..
And for your inner peace if have changed my Main to Valk (still play Warlord from time to time) its much more fun to 1 Shot a Shinobi with a Spear
