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[JarlYolo]

1 skill nerfed and now he is not good? something was not right with this skill then

[SAVAGE_CABBAGE1]

Free light / free heavy? ... it is not about free move after you fail avoiding Charge of Oni. Look, Valk have free heavy after knockdown too! Conqueror have free heavy after knockdown too. If you are so stupid that you will be knocked down, you deserve punish.

I used Charge of Oni most of time to get through defensive enemy. If he is noob, I know I can win by repeting this move. Like Warden, Warlord, Conq etc... if enemy is noob and not know how to defend, he will be rolled by same and same movements. But when you meet skilled opponent, you will realise that Charge of Oni or any spammable charges from Warden / Conq / Warlord will not help you! ...

In the end of a 2000$ tournament, two Shugs were in the finals. All they did was the charge, and it was only slowed down by their hyper armor.

If i can find a link of the video I will show you.

[S0Mi_xD]

Trust me, cabbagey guy, he already knows.

It's basically the same thing as Warden players ranting "SB/vortex don't need nerf, I counter it all the time, only dumb people fall for it".


(ps) that being said, I do think the Shug needs some buffs/changes.

One buff he really need, it is a gain from Oni-charge (my idea to atleast hit enemies against a wall to get a free light (and the headbutt)
This would be great and not OP.

But any other changes can wait, at first we need to see how Ubi wants to change defensive META.
After those changes we can see if heros still need buffs or nerfs.