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  1. #31
    Originally Posted by alustar24 Go to original post
    Every other progression based game does the same thing.
    There are no progression based online PvP games. It would be the same if tekken, mortal kombat or injustice required you to use a character for 30 hours at 66% the stats, to unlock the unnerfed version.

    Or LoL, or dota or overwatch, whatever.
    This system belongs in RPG games
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    Games that had gear based progression: Diablo(any) the reckoning kingdoms of amular, any elder scrolls game, champions of norath, baulders gate, and dragon age, all had leveling and gear grinds involved
    Soul Calibur 2-4 even had a sort of gear system, that they experimented with.
    You were saying?
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    Originally Posted by alustar24 Go to original post
    Games that had gear based progression: Diablo(any) the reckoning kingdoms of amular, any elder scrolls game, champions of norath, baulders gate, and dragon age, all had leveling and gear grinds involved
    Soul Calibur 2-4 even had a sort of gear system, that they experimented with.
    You were saying?
    1) Nobody plays Inquisition online, and it was indeed an experiment, because is terrible.
    2) soul calibur 2 is a single player game, for ps2.
    3)Elder scrolls is a single player game, and eso is unplayable in pvp unless you are full geared.

    Have you finished the worthless arguments ? Or theres more ?
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    Actually soul cal is two player fighter like tekken. Other two player games? Dragon ball xenovers and cod, and has gear progression, as more recent titles.

    The bottom line is this. Every game made has progression of some form or another to get you from the beginning to the end.
    No where are you going to pick up a game new and start with everything unlocked. And this idea that you as a fresh player should and can compete with others that have been playing far longer is not only selfish, but childish.
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    Originally Posted by Yarzahn Go to original post
    There are no progression based online PvP games. It would be the same if tekken, mortal kombat or injustice required you to use a character for 30 hours at 66% the stats, to unlock the unnerfed version.

    Or LoL, or dota or overwatch, whatever.
    This system belongs in RPG games
    Cod is a multiplayer pvp game where you have progression based advancement and unlocks. You don't start with the max lvl rifles and perks, you have to unlock them. Additionally the only way to do so is through online play. Offline play will not yield returns for online load outs.

    Originally Posted by Lord-Micidial Go to original post
    1) Nobody plays Inquisition online, and it was indeed an experiment, because is terrible.
    2) soul calibur 2 is a single player game, for ps2.
    3)Elder scrolls is a single player game, and eso is unplayable in pvp unless you are full geared.

    Have you finished the worthless arguments ? Or theres more ?
    No body plays inquisition currently. After release it was loaded with players as are most new titles.
    Lol and what makes my argument worthless, the fact that you don't like it or the fact that I just proved your "no games have this type of progression" theory to ****?
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    People mistake gear discrepancies with skill discrepancies.
    I encountered the same thing in Rift, I had max level pvp gear, and over 5 years of time invested into my builds. When someone complained that I wiped the
    Because of gear I'd take it off and run naked with low lvl weapons only and still won. Not because of gear(obviously since I had none) but because I knew, not only my build, but what to look for in other classes when I'm combat as I'd leveled each one to cap.
    I new myself and I knew my enemy.
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    We do have changes coming to gear in Season 2 that will hopefully quell some of the concerns you have in regards to fighting max gear heroes. We are investigating ways to better balance the matchmaking process so you are fighting similarly leveled opponents, but we unfortunately don't have any news to share on when changes will be implemented to do so.
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  8. #38
    Originally Posted by Lord-Micidial Go to original post
    Is not too painful. But i have literally 0 intentions to lvl up my grey kensei against lvl 108 pk's able to 3 shot me.
    thats what I meant with painful.
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  9. #39
    Originally Posted by Ulnias Go to original post
    but ya know it still comes downto whining really. I got put into several games yesterday and today against rep 1-28 people and I was the only one under rep 1... did it suck balls cause of gear differences... YES.... did I rage quit and cry like a baby... no.... cause I knew I was gonna get my *** handed to me. onyl way to get bettter is to get to it.

    as far as leveling... dont wanna get beat down by players... and dont wanna fight bots.... then your sol, and stick with story mode... I dont know what to tell ya'll
    And exactly that is what this is about genius, we dont want it to suck balls. Of course you could just carry on and call everyone thats trying to make the game suck less by telling the devs whats wrong a cry baby or you could actually try to give feedback and make the game better. You even say that you dont want to get beat down by high level players and you dont want to fight bots either so you are actually on our side here, but you still found a way to antagonize those who share your opinion.
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    Just ran several skirmishes on my friends console, my main is a PK so I purchased a level one PK on his account and dived right in.

    Was there a bit of added difficulty? Sure, I didn't have anything that I was used to other than my move sets.

    Did I under preform because of a discrepancy based around my lack of gear? No, while I didn't preform as I normally would have, I still wasn't at an extreme disadvantage since I at least knew the mechanics of the game.

    In fact I got into a fight with another PK that tried to treat me like a noob and suffered for it. After I partied, deflected and counter attacked him, he spent the rest of the match running from me.

    I don't know why people complain about this, if you are new then the only way to get better at fighting players is to play against other players.
    If you are trying a new hero understand that your inability may be less tied to your gear and more tied to your lack of knowledge with said new character.
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