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[CoyoteXStarrk]

No one seems to get it like we do, man.

"Use your lights" Lights are slow and easily parried.
"Use your heavy combo" You're kidding, right?
"Use your charge heavy" That only works half the time, but never when the enemy is light spamming or goes for a guardbreak on you.
"Use your cheap shield bash" Easily dodged, and I get punished for that, too.
"Then guard break them after your superior block!" They're usually staggered just out of reach, and by the time I get over there, they're fine again.

What I don't get, however, is why I get so much hate mail for when I do win with Conq. I've never gotten any as Warden, Raider, or Warlord, but as soon as the Conq comes out, people get all pissed off and think he's some sort of godly hero that destroys armies with the flick of a RAH

Oh the shield bash is PURE BS

I thought it was still as bad as it was in Beta, but no it is SO easy for people to avoid now. I almost am afraid to try here recently due to how badly I get punished for doing it. Th eonly time it IS useful is when you shove them into a wall so the recovery time doesn't allow them to get out, but even then you can only do it a few times before you run out of steam.


And his "Combos"? They are the easiest to avoid and counter out of any hero that I know of. Everything he does is so slow and so easily countered.



The only times where I win is when I jump into a fight to help a teammate or when I blindside someone. God forbid if I get into a 1v1 situation. Either the person just pokes and prods me to death little by little or they just ignore me entirely because they know there isn't much I can do.


It honestly feels like the Conqueror was built in aprevious build of the game and they just forgot to bring him up to date. He just feels so far behind everyone else in terms of usefulness. Hell even Raider is more dangerous than this guy. And that is saying ALOT.

[pmkr0]

Buffing? In a failing game? With a declining playerbase?
I think you need to train more, and learn to play the conq.

this. Not that the conq needs any buff, i just hate whiners, they had a winning strategy that now is not working ? ( why i don't know because most conqs i run into are very good and hard to kill ) and start spamming forums for buffs. Every hero is different and should have different strategies you just want them all to do the same things. The warlord has the most basic 2 hit combo and a headbutt that was nerfed 4 times and you still complain about it.
Or buffing the raider. He is a beast but hey, feints are not for people who spam forums, losers can't play him to his strenghts . Watch truetalent wreck anybody with a raider and maybe change your playstyle.

[TheLastPandaa]

I am a Rep 10 Conqueror and my feeling with this heroe is that there is no real reason to play him. All he does can be done better, faster, with more dmg and less stamina cost by other characters, not to mention that he is now the most easy heroe to counter in the entire game.

Sad to say, but Conqueror is dead.

[UbiNoty]

Don't worry! we won't let him be forgotten!

With all the preparations for s2 coming up fast, we may not have any updates for you all soon about our plans for good old conq, but the team does know that he's in a less-than-ideal spot at the moment.
Once we have more solid plans in place we'll update you all then.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Don't worry! we won't let him be forgotten!

With all the preparations for s2 coming up fast, we may not have any updates for you all soon about our plans for good old conq, but the team does know that he's in a less-than-ideal spot at the moment.
Once we have more solid plans in place we'll update you all then.

Good to know.

[Joseph_2017]

5/103 Conqueror here

This guy is one of my favorite heroes since I mainly play Skirmish. His style is just perfect for taking on 2 guys sometimes 3 of I'm lucky or even just tanking hits while your teammates help with the damage. I also run into 1v1 on the field often and he does well for me. Even if my teams team is getting smashed my KD will be even. I may just be a good Conqueror but he dosent need much of a buff. There are other good Conquerors out there too that know what I mean and don't want a LB case in this hero. If you want to improve him I suggest giving him a stamina lvl 1 feat and a better lvl 4 feat, since I hate catapult (cheap) and never have time to stand around and regen in the heat of battle.

The Conqueror is also a "Strong Defense" Hero so that being said he wasn't made to be a offensive heavy. A lot of people say he's so predictable but that's maybe because they haven't learned to use his lights effectively, which he has decent speeds with the lights. All the scrub Conqs I run into do the same Heavy Heavy Bash Heavy Heavy and THATS predictable.

So Ubi don't overpower this guy please.

[Mia.Nora]

Just played vs the Bot 3 in practice (Valkyrie) as Conqueror. Simply put he was utterly under performing compared to what any other hero can.

1st of all, when I successfully parry most of her attacks, my GB doesnt reach her, if I try to reach her before grabbing she already recovers and counters.

Then I tried GB > Heavy > Bash > Heavy combo, the times it worked because of poor AI issue. Otherwise a player can punish it every time with side dodge+LA if she wants. So that combo is out of game.

I noticed when I shield bash her when she is out of stamina she doesn't fall to ground. And I have no other means of actually punishing someone when out of stamina, since they can just CGB anyway.

Then I tried something I saw on this thread, someone supporting Conq to be good claiming he can dodge to the direction of attack and shield bash into it after GB. It is true, I can successfully dodge into their attacks and my guard stance change to that direction, block and I proceed to shiedbash. What he forget to say is that after that shieldbash connect, the distance between 2 chars is much longer than the forward shieldbash result; meaning that's where it ends since your GB or attack doesn't reach. You shieldbash for what?? 5 damage? and then it is over back to neutral.

Right now, I still play him in Dominion but purely as a support character following someone who knows how to and when to attack. And I feed on lower skill players by punishing with heavy into their attack or throwing off into environmentals. But the thing is I could do the exact same as Valkyrie or Warlord and do it WAAAAY better on top of still being a badass in 1v1.

Only thing going for Conq right now is RRRAAAHHHHHH! Once they nerf it he is completely trash.

[G0dzBlaze]

most of poeple who say conq is weak is because they play at low elo and never seen a skilled conq play. Get yourself at 80% + winrate and eventually you encounter a high skilled conq who know how to play him and counter your playstyle then you will change your mind.

Im good with a rework but ffs dont overpower him.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

most of poeple who say conq is weak is because they play at low elo and never seen a skilled conq play. Get yourself at 80% + winrate and eventually you encounter a high skilled conq who know how to play him and counter your playstyle then you will change your mind.

Im good with a rework but ffs dont overpower him.

Yeah no lol


I am at an 80% winrate and at BEST the Conquerors I run into that are Prestige 14+ can do is hold me off until the team shows up.

[TheLastPandaa]

most of poeple who say conq is weak is because they play at low elo and never seen a skilled conq play. Get yourself at 80% + winrate and eventually you encounter a high skilled conq who know how to play him and counter your playstyle then you will change your mind.

Im good with a rework but ffs dont overpower him.

Let me use your words here:
most of poeple who say conq is STRONG is because they play at low elo.