Okay the Conqueror is a hollow shell of what he once was. Its sad. | Forums

[CoyoteXStarrk]

But lets be honest. Uninterruptable attacks are cheap. I still like playing the conqueror - although it is not really effective - but I find the warlord simply boring. Enemy swings - counter with heavy. You will most likely win the damage trade. If anything alse doesn't work - head but.

Conqueror at least requires thinking but several parts if his hero specific treats are broken or more of a danger to yourself, than to the enemy. His charged attack is nice on paper but it is an invitation to gb you. The heavy counter attack is not really working properly as well.

On top, it is very hard to get combos is. His light attacks are slow - even on console, they pose no threat.


In short - great hero but too depending on terrain and one move.

Yeah no.


He is gonna be getting uninterruptible attacks

Common sense and already existing balance demands that. I will tell you I told you so in a few months.

[DrExtrem]

Yeah no.


He is gonna be getting uninterruptible attacks

Common sense and already existing balance demands that. I will tell you I told you so in a few months.

I did nt question that he might get them. I only poinet out, that it is a lame mechanic for standard attacks - in general.

Btw. Common sense left the team long ago.

[Herbstlicht]

Well .. thing with conq is: he needs to fixed first. In pro-hands, he is a killing machine. Feint flicker delay bleh-whatever-crap makes even his charged-attack neigh-unblockable, combined with his solid defence, this is crap. For the "normals" - ah well. "Normal" conqs are either inactive turtles (not fun) or poor victims for me, because i parry everything and punish. Thats boring too though and i kinda feel bad the one sided way of things. But this hero needs some serious fixing and strengthening out on his offensive moves with his weapon. No stupid shove or bash or vortex bs please.

[Jarl.Felix]

I always wondered why Ubisoft employees make so many mistakes patch by patch .. reducing that buffing that, rinse and repeat.. and overall game is still crap in terms of ballance.. They simply shift heroes strength from one to another instead of balancing the game... curious.

[wethebishop]

Try feinting light attacks. The conqueror can do this easily and without any exploit.

Also, the conqueror is very good at destroying stamina: dodge into the direction of the enemy's light attack and immediately follow it up with a shield bash into a light attack. This counts as a block and a shield bash, so it doubly hurts their stamina, plus you get a free hit. You'll find that dodging into light attacks is much more forgiving than with assassins. It's strange actually because it switches guards to the direction you dodge in more quickly than just changing guard directions normally. Please try it. It's easy to stop any light with it, even the warden's overhead.

[laugmanden]

Buffing? In a failing game? With a declining playerbase?
I think you need to train more, and learn to play the conq.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Decided that for the rest of this week I am gonna play as the Conqueror at least one hour a night.


Just to see if people are right and that people just don't know how to use him.

[UrWaifuAintReal]

Currently conq is in an odd spot, he either get dumpstered or dumpster others who can't GB instantly after dodge. Also he's not really "bad" because a lot of high level players are abusing the flickering charged heavy, he still get free GB on blocked heavy and can feint attacks with all block, he also still turtle very well.

So while he's no longer top tier, he's still around mid-lower tier and certainly there're still heroes that are worse than him.

[CoyoteXStarrk]

Okay this is just sad. I am givving my honest to god all to play him and play him well, but jesus christ this guy needs some help.


I have no idea how people can stand playing the Conqueror if there was EVER a character that needed uninterruptible attacks its this guy. Everything he does is so telegraphed that you are just ASKING to be parried or poked so your hits never land


Also how is it the Warlords sword attacks can't be interrupted, but my friggin weight on the end of a CHAIN just stops obeying the laws of physics if a PK pokes me with a dagger? That is just stupid.

[KotoKuraken]

Okay this is just sad. I am givving my honest to god all to play him and play him well, but jesus christ this guy needs some help.


I have no idea how people can stand playing the Conqueror if there was EVER a character that needed uninterruptible attacks its this guy. Everything he does is so telegraphed that you are just ASKING to be parried or poked so your hits never land


Also how is it the Warlords sword attacks can't be interrupted, but my friggin weight on the end of a CHAIN just stops obeying the laws of physics if a PK pokes me with a dagger? That is just stupid.

No one seems to get it like we do, man.

"Use your lights" Lights are slow and easily parried.
"Use your heavy combo" You're kidding, right?
"Use your charge heavy" That only works half the time, but never when the enemy is light spamming or goes for a guardbreak on you.
"Use your cheap shield bash" Easily dodged, and I get punished for that, too.
"Then guard break them after your superior block!" They're usually staggered just out of reach, and by the time I get over there, they're fine again.

What I don't get, however, is why I get so much hate mail for when I do win with Conq. I've never gotten any as Warden, Raider, or Warlord, but as soon as the Conq comes out, people get all pissed off and think he's some sort of godly hero that destroys armies with the flick of a RAH