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[Tundra 793]

Why bother playing the game if you can just buy steel? People play to UNLOCK and COLLECT things, level up, and generally just enjoy the game

Not sure that's a fitting analogy. Steel is currency, ornaments are something flashy to show off. Purely cosmetic. I'd also argue that most people play the game, indeed all games, for the sake of gameplay, challenges or competition. Stuff like ornaments and collectibles are secondary goals for most.
When I log in to For Honor, It's not to ogle my ornaments in the customization screen, It's to play against other people, but not to ogle their ornaments.

worrying about whether you chose correctly or if you're going to miss out on an unlockable isn't something people bought the game for.

Choosing correctly has nothing to do with choosing the team that wins, It's meant to be choosing the faction you personally like the most. And again, I don't think the majority of players bought the game to collect all the ornaments.

Everybody is already losing interest in faction war. There's some people who literally never manually deployed this season just auto deploy everytime. There's numerous amounts of people saying they lost interest in faction war due to the poor rewards some going as far as saying they're quitting the game, including Vikings. You can tell who bought them by the outline they have on their emblem. Anyone besides ppl with the gold outline would obviously have bought it, as for anyone not using the outline who cares whether they bought it or earned it, I'm not going to spend any time trying to figure whether someone won the previous season or not.

True, except people can choose to use a standard emblem outline, then theoretically pair it with a Season win ornament, and now you can't tell if they won, or bought it, negating the purpose of the Faction War.
People might not care about who won it or bought it, but if buying them is an option to begin with, there's no reason for the faction war to exist.

Lastly I don't think the season winner should have even been given ornaments. I think they should've got a massive amount of steel, champ status, scavenger crates, the emblem outline, and maybe 3-7 days early access to the new content. The last one is very unlikely though since they want to make money off the season pass and plus the ppl with season passes get it a week early so it wouldn't benefit everyone.

And I believe the season winner should be given ornaments. Or exclusive symbols, emblem outlines, something exclusive at least, and visually representative in game. The faction war is an integral part of For Honor, for better or worse, and for it to mean something, it needs an incentive at the end of it. Steel's not a good incentive, imagine how much you can accumulate during the course of a season. Your other suggestions conflict with the microtransaction system as well as season pass holders, who will want something extra for their money.

I think a massive amount of steel would be the best thing. That way ppl can buy whatever they want instead of being forced into getting ornaments plus we've been asking for steel as a reward since like round 2. The income rate of steel has also been complained about for awhile and will only continue to get worse as new things are added. Steel rewards would help counter this.

The Steel income was fixed like 2 patches ago, you're now making like 40-50% more Steel in your orders than before, and I think it works nicely at the level it's at now.

[WoodDaGawd]

I'd have to wonder that if you were a Viking, would you have still written such a thought out post for the respective losing factions.


A rhetorical question. I already know the answer.

[ArimakoInfernua]

where I played 24/7 like a no lifer for knights and got diddly.

I may not have played too much because I can't because I'm saving up for a new computer but I played SO much at the start and I can't even get the stuff for my OWN faction. I paid money for this game and I don't even get rewarded for religously playing it at the start? I can't believe I defended you at the stake for bad game mechanics during open beta, a few DAYS mind you from release. I still want to believe. Just reward everyone for not abandoning your game and give each faction their own ornaments. Doesnt have to be all of them just their own faction.

[DudeTheDude12]

Just make the ornaments 10 20 30k steel, problem solved.

[Ezcendant]

100% disagree with OP.
The game has been losing alot of peoples interest, because of the fact that no decisions matter.

Um, no. This game has been losing peoples' interest because the P2P system is buggy as hell and people don't like only finishing one game every hour or so. Don't try and pretend anyone gives a crap about the faction war, and certainly not enough to quit the game over it or the rewards.

In my opinion it's better to be in the smaller faction because you don't need as many people to make a difference. If someone goes inactive in the smaller faction it doesn't matter as much because they're still earning assets at an accelerated rate. But if someone of the larger faction goes inactive it's worse because not only are they still earning assets at a slower rate but they're also missing the people which means their greater numbers don't really matter.

What? No. Let's say a match is worth 100 points (it's not, but it makes the math easier and it doesn't really matter). The over populated sams get no bonus, so 100 per person per match. The knights, who now conveniently have exactly half the population of the sams, get 200 a match to make it even.

If one person on the knights goes inactive they lose 200 a match. If one person in the sams goes inactive they lose 100 a match. So inactives hurt the lower populations more. Of course the flip side of that is, with my example population, the sams have twice the likely hood of someone going inactive, so it evens out.

As far as population, skill, and activity goes for the faction war literally everything averages out under the current system as long as we have a decent player base (small samples can cause issues). That's why it really is just RNG and always comes down to the last round or two. Everyone gets the same amount of assets, every team has the same percentage of good, bad, and inactive players. Etc.

Just make the ornaments 10 20 30k steel, problem solved.

This is the best idea imo. 30k steel is nothing to sneer at, and it stops people feeling ripped off by a terrible minigame they didn't want to waste time on.

[The_B0G_]

If anything let 2nd place pick two at the end, and third place gets to pick one.

I don't think its right 2nd and third place get absolutely nothing at the end of the season. Yes, crates and and outlines for banners I'm not counting because they are useless. I'd rather pick 1 exclusive ornament for my main than have all the other stuff.

[Ulrichvonbek111]

If anything let 2nd place pick two at the end, and third place gets to pick one.

I don't think its right 2nd and third place get absolutely nothing at the end of the season. Yes, crates and and outlines for banners I'm not counting because they are useless. I'd rather pick 1 exclusive ornament for my main than have all the other stuff.

+1
Well said,,for crates are almost worthless when you've high rep mains and high rep warriors in your faction.
The frame is of no use at all,,in fact I prefer my Buddha one for the Samurai.
Now to have the minimal choice of headgear ornament for main from your faction would surely be more than greatfully appreciated. ..
We all fought hard and long since day one of the Great War....
Please consider and give us a true reward in recognition of all our efforts..
Thank you.💮

[SlashingElbow]

U chose the wrong faction. Sucks. In war the winners takes all and losers nothing. No go tend to whats rest of your wives and try to rebuild your burnt villages

[Potatoserver825]

The knights, who now conveniently have exactly half the population of the sams, get 200 a match to make it even.

If one person on the knights goes inactive they lose 200 a match. If one person in the sams goes inactive they lose 100 a match. So inactives hurt the lower populations more. Of course the flip side of that is, with my example population, the sams have twice the likely hood of someone going inactive, so it evens out.

U chose the wrong faction. Sucks. In war the winners takes all and losers nothing. No go tend to whats rest of your wives and try to rebuild your burnt villages

Ego: the factions weren't that unbalanced. The Vikings who had the least amount of players won, the samurai who had the most players got a close second, and knights in the middle got nothing even though they manually deployed the most. Also if the factions are that uneven then the algorithm will balance it out. If there's a 10% difference they might get a 100 point bonus. If there's a 20% difference they might get a 200-300 bonus. I mostly agree with the second part though.

Slashing: I've seen you in quite a bit of threads now and you say the exact sam thing in every post. This isn't real life dude... if games were as depressing and harsh as reality, do you think anyone would actually play them to escape reality for a moment and enjoy themselves? Come on, such a immature comment. I bet you haven't even seen war. And actually wars usually end in a treaty where both sides compromise and sacrifice things so everyone can be happy and live in peace. If no treaty is signed then the war and killing will rage on until one side has been massacred or is close to being eliminated and other countries will step in to stop the bullying country/side since that's the humantarian thing to do. Stop trying to relate video game war to real life war, you're argument is invalid.

[Operch]

What I like about the current setup is that it's all or nothing. Either you get the ornaments or you don't. There is no participation ribbon in the world of For Honor. Anyone with the ornaments from this season has earned them by sticking with the Vikings.