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Well, due some changes and console playing different, I am curious about your picks.
Top tier: Warden, Peacekeeper, Conquerer, Lawbringer, Warlord, Valkyrie
Mid tier: Berserker, Orochi, Shugoki
Low tier: Raider, Kensei, Nobushi
The top tier bracket has mostly significant advantages against the lower ones, though i am not sure about Lawbringer. Many run around in duels now that aren't even prestiged yet but already fight incredibly strong. Besides, after having taken a break in duels, i feel many have learned how to completely outplay the low tier classes.
I mean how much does it take for a valk or pk to fast attack your way through a Raider or Nobushi defence?
Warden seems as strong as pre nerf, so do Peacekeepers and Warlords. Conqs and Valkyries always feel like a pain, though personally, only strong conqs are bad. But Valks kill me like everytime they start their vortex.
When it comes to the mid tier, cases are very different. Berserker for example has a nice kit, but I think he still misses "something". Orochi is strong but stupid. 99% only go for top light za cuz it is the most viable option in like 99% of the time. Shugoki has a lot of players now that can use his hyper armor. And maybe some lucky moments because of it, dunno. But despite his slow speed, he can still do some nasty things.
When it comes to low tier ..
Well, Raider needs love. A lot.
Kensei too still isn't where he should be. Too easy do ust wait out for where he goes in his mixup, you can react pretty much to everything.
Nobushi .. well, people now always parry retreating top light, some other lights too. Sidewinder parry too has bexome increasingly common, i dunno what i should do on the offence any longer. Za only doesnt win you fights in duels.
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Add valk ...Originally Posted by Rikuto-san Go to original post
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If i remember right, you are a berserker main?Originally Posted by DrExtrem Go to original post
Isn't it stupid for a hybrid to have all the assassin advantages paired with incredible moves and powerful defence? (Valk)
Anyway, a "good" thing is that Ubi trys to tone down the right stuff, they are just too careful right now. Same for the buffs, it seems a slow process.
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Warden main - without vortex.Originally Posted by Herbstlicht Go to original post
The valks light spam is still extreme on console. Combined with its sweep, the valk is as brutal, as the pk.
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I liie playing duels, and therenreally are playersnthat utilize their whole palette of skills without relying on vortex or the like. Makes for some memorable and good fights most of then time. Players playing this way normally have a great understanding of their class and their abilitys, so they can kinda "toy" with the weaker tiers. Not meant negatively, because it surely is more fun for both, especially if both are grown ups that care about the fun of fighting most and winning somewhere after it.Originally Posted by DrExtrem Go to original post
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Yeah .... but I am not a good player.
But I try ... if I play duels vs. humans (if mm works) and I have the time, I try to utilize the whole moveset. Bonus: If I use shoulder bash, the enemy is usually very surprised.
The problem is, that finesse and class understanding are meaningless, if the enemy can beat you to pulp with light spam. Nobushi, kensei, valk, pk ... they all can do it. Kensai and nobushi are a bit slower but they can use the range to compensate.
Frustration ... pure frustration.
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