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  1. #1

    DZ <=14 suggestion

    Please enable a way for agents to be able to get purple loot at level 14 in DZ again. It was removed some patch ago where agents in this bracket could loot chests in contaminated areas to get purple loot to extract. Now you can't anymore. So some twinks are absolutely unkillable because they have all purple gear, and new "twinks" or players in this bracket don't stand a chance cause they can't even get purple loot - at all.

    So, instead of "re-enabling" the chests, how about something like;

    • Killing named enemies gives a slight chance to drop a purple loot. The higher level enemy, the higher the chance (so people can group up for DZ3+)
    • Or how about adding a purple loot for each vendor in DZ each week
    • Or, get this, DZ vendor blueprints for lv 14 purples


    Why you may ask? It gives new players as well as old veterans something to do that isn't end-game related but more alternative twink fun. Right now it's just not balanced due to the removal of purple drops. This, with loadouts would definitely be amazing. I would grind Dark Zone bosses and players to try and get different purple loadouts. It's a relatively easy fix in my opinion and simply just gives players more reasons to have fun on alts. Also to balance it as previously mentioned, it's totally unfair nowadays.

    If anyone can get purple loot if they put in the work for it this is a really balanced PVP because it's lv 14 and you need to think carefully what you gear towards with the limited skills and talents. Also, no set bonuses or triple talents. Just 2 talents and a lot of skill needed.

    Please just at least level the playing field (again)... Right now it's absolutely useless but with one of the modifications above it would be *something* for a lot of people. And again, it's a relatively easy thing to implement so go ahead Hamish, hit that button!

    A bracket-specific leaderboard on top of the 2 existing ones would be really fun too.

    Edit: I realise I posted this in PTS Suggestion/Feedback cause I figured altering the loot table for DZ bracket 14 on named enemies wouldn't be that much work involved so having it done for 1.6.1 might not be that big of a task?
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  2. #2
    I suggest regular XP be given in the DZ to run those purple twinks out of the noob servers. Make them level up. But that's just me.
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  3. #3
    Being a twink is by choice. It's a way to extend the game for those interested. If that's not for you then don't. Quite simple really. Forcing people to not be able to stay in a specific bracket because they are having fun there is not a solution.
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  4. #4
    Originally Posted by Gridsurf Go to original post
    Being a twink is by choice. It's a way to extend the game for those interested. If that's not for you then don't. Quite simple really. Forcing people to not be able to stay in a specific bracket because they are having fun there is not a solution.
    I bet the fifth hour level 14 noobs are having a blast getting roll stomped by 1000 hour DZ 99 level 14 twinkers.
    That's just short of flat out cheating.

    Like you said yourself,they are not even ALLOWED to gear up to be anything close to competitive.
    A lot of twinkers still sport some gold exploit gear.
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    First, HE gear was removed completely from these levels. Rightly so I might add cause they were only achievable by "exploiting", either UG or HVT if I recall correctly. Secondly, you do not gain any advantage of being level 99 DZ vs. a level 15 DZ if you both have purple gear. As pointed out, a lot of us have full purple gear, a whole lot of people want to play with us but they don't stand a chance. So the ~20 or so twinks that are regulars can only have fun with eachother and stomp on newbies which is unfair. It's not unfair if everyone has the same chance for loot.

    We love it, we compare stats and builds with the little gear we managed to get before they removed purple. It's a lot of fun and really balanced. I have 3 level 30s and I still enjoy playing on my twink a whole lot. We're simply asking for purple loot to be re-introduced in to the DZ 1-14. Preferably from doing something like killing bosses for a chance, the higher the DZ the higher the chance as said.
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  6. #6
    I came here just to upvote.

    On PS4 and purple gear should totally be removed and then everyone can run blue.

    Level 14 Blue Twink
    Level 19 Purple Twink
    Level 24 HE Twink
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  7. #7
    Originally Posted by Gridsurf Go to original post
    Secondly, you do not gain any advantage of being level 99 DZ vs. a level 15 DZ if you both have purple gear. As pointed out, a lot of us have full purple gear, a whole lot of people want to play with us but they don't stand a chance. So the ~20 or so twinks that are regulars can only have fun with eachother and stomp on newbies which is unfair. It's not unfair if everyone has the same chance for loot.

    Are you seriously saying a player with 1000 hours in the DZ has no advantage over a player with five hours total in the game as long as they have the same loot?
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    Are you seriously saying a player with 1000 hours in the DZ has no advantage over a player with five hours total in the game as long as they have the same loot?
    You are way off topic but to answer your question, your argument is the same for any bracket, regardless of level or DZ level. What I meant is if you're a experienced player against another experienced player the skill should decide, not the gear. And as is, purples were simply just removed and we're asking for them to be brought back.

    Again though, any player, any bracket with more experience will still outplay someone new to the game regardless of gear. Aaand, again, that's not the discussion on this thread.
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    Originally Posted by Face_the_Mase Go to original post
    I came here just to upvote.

    On PS4 and purple gear should totally be removed and then everyone can run blue.

    Level 14 Blue Twink
    Level 19 Purple Twink
    Level 24 HE Twink
    Hi and thanks for giving your opinion on the matter! I would actually agree with you. That does make sense in one way. However then I'd rather see "green" loot to be the default loot and blue loot to be harder to get. For the sake of it, it would just be easier to re-implement purple loot in the lower bracket, it's still lv14 purple loot. Otherwise "more" changes are needed for the same "effect".

    But, if they did change it and made blue gear 'rarer' and something to work for and removed purples I wouldn't mind at all. But my opinion is that simply altering the loot table to that of DZ15-19 for DZ4-14 would be easier and basically the "same" thing.
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  10. #10
    Originally Posted by Gridsurf Go to original post
    You are way off topic but to answer your question, your argument is the same for any bracket, regardless of level or DZ level. What I meant is if you're a experienced player against another experienced player the skill should decide, not the gear. And as is, purples were simply just removed and we're asking for them to be brought back.

    Again though, any player, any bracket with more experience will still outplay someone new to the game regardless of gear. Aaand, again, that's not the discussion on this thread.
    It is EXACTLY the discussion here.
    You are playing an area meant for noobs and you are using gear that is impossible for them to get.

    You will not run into 5th hour noobs in the tier 5 bracket.
    You may have more experience but at least by then they know what the buttons do.

    Twinkers are players that can't hang with vet players and stay in the lower brackets to roll stomp noobs.
    The crap about "balance" is a joke. It is what it is.

    A DZ 99 player in the 14 bracket is just barely a step above a hacker.
    I hope they run you guys out instead of giving better gear.
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